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The difference in the listed crimes is the pain and suffering inflicted upon innocent victims. Not one of them listed above involves two consenting adults.

To true, let the will of the people prevail. I won't agree with it, I won't vote against gay marriage, but I will accept the vote of the people. This vote should be at the state level due to the way I perceive that government should be run.

Ahh yes, the morality argument. You should not assume that only one set of morals exist. Even pagan witches that summon demons have morals, just not your morals, or the morals of the Bible. My morals are based on freedom of people and the protection of innocence from those that would harm them. Everyone has morals, the Bible isn't the only book or that preaches morals, and Christians aren't the only ones who have morals. That's pointing to an opinion that states that everyone who doesn't think like you is wrong. Your morals aren't wrong to me, they are just different than mine. Look for a thread on differing morals.

Sorry, that's a common misconception that begs to be debated, but is beyond the scope of this thread.

Offtopic but, Look for a new thread on the beginnings of the United States of America. Our humble beginning is not what you have always been taught; the evidence is documented and very interesting. No opinions in this soon to be thread, only pointed evidence.

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I believe that this debate is not anymore one of the wits but one of the hearts... What started like a topic for legalize a right transform into a display of personal feelings regarding homosexuality. But one must not judge the opinion of the others but express one of its own..this is what I learn to do on this forum . So I think that a referendum would be a great idea for US.

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Well, Massachusetts is no longer the only state where a judge(s) have decided that it is unconsititutional to ban gay marrige.

What I find interesting is there can be no question that when these state constitutions were written there was no intent to grant same sex marriage to anyone. So, how can it really be contrary to that constitution? Just a thought.

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This is extremely disturbing. In Massachusetts, the ban on gay marriage was not voted on by the people, it was legislated. But I believe in California, the ban on gay marriage was voted on by the people and approved. The same is true for my home state, Missouri.

If you have kept up with the thread, you know that I don't agree with the ban, but believe in upholding the will of the majority of people. Forcing the allowance of gay marriage is not good in the long or short run. This type of over ruling is a slap in the face of the voters of California!

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I believe that is one of the key differences between a democratic government and a republic (US is NOT a democracy it is a republic). Our law is not truly based upon majority rules. The majority are not allowed to pass a law that is unfair or infringes on the rights of another group. Now, this is true as long as what the group wants doesn't harm others. For example, you can't pass a law that says it is o.k. to kill a particular group of people. Point of fact, that law was passed in the 1800's in Missouri, but it can't possibly be constitutional.

So, the judge in California is saying that the law the majority want, infringes unfairly upon the rights of homosexuals. If this is true, then the law must be struck down.

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I think the concept of same-sex marriage is an oxymoron. It goes contrary to everything marriage has meant in every civilized society for centuries. Two people of the same sex living in some kind of union may be legal, but it is not a marriage. A marriage is not just a contract, it is a covenant. The covenantal aspect of marriage precludes a same-sex relationship.
The constitutional issue is one that has to be addressed. Activist judges who try to legislate from the bench are trying to impose a constitutional blanket onto a relationship where there is no constitutional issue. Marriage is not a constitutional issue. Trying to make it such goes far beyond the perimeters of constitutionality or judicial prerogative.

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Marriage is absolutely a right! It is the right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. It has to do with someones right to be happy and pursue causes to that end as long as they aren't hurting others. To say it is an oxymoron is saying that marriage still means a life long commitment. If it still meant that, then people would have a higher success rate than 50%. Marriage means little to nothing to at least 50% of those who chose it now.

The idea that marriage is not a constitutional issue and is a religious issue implys that people outside of religion cannot marry. If your argument would be to prevail, then atheists and agnostics could not enter into marriage because they would be entering into a covenant that was not under God. So the argument that gays cannot marry because it is covenantial does not hold up under its own scrutiny. To some it is still sacred, to the majority of people though, its only sacred in terms of remaining man and woman, in reality, it was originally sacred to keep those promises made till you both die. If that where still kept, then there would not be a 50% divorce rate in this country.

Third, religion does not, and should not, govern our country. It was not founded on religious principles, it was founded on religious freedom. If they wanted rules enforced by the church, they could have stayed in England, where the church and the monarchy where the same. With holding someone elses rights because of someones religious views goes completely against the reason this country was founded. It stifles religious freedom and boxes the laws into an area that can only draw on Biblical values and nothing else. That is forcing others to accept your religious views and disregards personal choice. Thank you FBC for pointing out that we are not a democracy, we are a republic, you are absolutely correct!

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This article shows me some of the problems with how we are approaching the subject of same-sex marriage. Since we are leaving each state to choose how it is going to deal with the subject, and the majority of the states don't want to give such benefits, the people who enter these marriages find that they are inheriting a lot of problems.

Specifically, in this case, a couple of women in Conneticut find that they aren't legally wed, but they can't get divorced either.

Interesting dilemma, isn't it.