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We have a thread that discusses whether or not a person is born homosexual. You might want to check it out because that would be the best place for us to continue that line of discussion if you want. You can find it here

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I'm jumpin in here way too late. But here's my $.02: I vote Nay.

Homosexual marriage can't be condoned in any way, because homosexuality cannot be condoned. It's hard for me to accept that we've got members who believe that it's just a matter of marriage.

Roz

Offtopic but, That gay Episcopalian bishop is setting a very scary precedent for other churches.

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It has taken me some time to find the articles, plus this is going to be a very long post ~ thus you are forewarned.

I only posted a few of the many articles that I have read that reinforce to me why same sex marriages/ homosexuality are wrong.

"The Standard of Truth Has Been Erected" Boyd K. Packer, "The Standard of Truth Has Been Erected," Ensign, Nov. 2003, 24

Before we came into mortal life, we lived as spirit children of our Father in Heaven. 17 "All human beings-male and female-are created in the image of God. Each [of you] is a beloved spirit son or daughter of heavenly parents, and, as such, [you have] a divine nature and destiny. Gender [male and female] is an essential characteristic of individual premortal, mortal, and eternal identity and purpose." 18 (17. See Num. 16:22; Eccl. 12:7; Heb. 12:9. 18. "The Family: A Proclamation to the World," Liahona, Oct. 1998, 24; Ensign, Nov. 1995, 102.)

Because the power to create a mortal body is essential to our happiness and exaltation, the Lord has decreed severe penalties against the immoral use of that power to beget life. 21 Satan knows that if he can corrupt the process of mating and cause men and women to degrade it in immoral acts, he will, to that degree, for them disrupt the plan of happiness. Paul taught, "God "¦ will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it." 22 (21. See Jacob 3:12; D&C 42:24; D&C 104:8-9. 22. 1 Cor. 10:13.)

Some work through political, social, and legal channels to redefine morality and marriage into something unrestrained, unnatural, and forbidden. But they never can change the design which has governed human life and happiness from the beginning. The deceiver preys upon some passion or tendency or weakness. He convinces them that the condition cannot be changed and recruits them for activities for which they never would volunteer.

Elder Richard G. Scott: "Within the enduring covenant of marriage, the Lord permits husband and wife the expression of the sacred procreative powers in all their loveliness and beauty within the bounds He has set. One purpose of this private, sacred, intimate experience is to provide the physical bodies for the spirits Father in Heaven wants to experience mortality. Another reason for these powerful and beautiful feelings of love is to bind husband and wife together in loyalty, fidelity, consideration of each other, and common purpose.

"However, those intimate acts are forbidden by the Lord outside the enduring commitment of marriage because they undermine His purposes. Within the sacred covenant of marriage, such relationships are according to His plan. When experienced any other way, they are against His will. They cause serious emotional and spiritual harm. Even though participants do not realize that is happening now, they will later. Sexual immorality creates a barrier to the influence of the Holy Spirit with all its uplifting, enlightening, and empowering capabilities. It causes powerful physical and emotional stimulation. In time that creates an unquenchable appetite that drives the offender to ever more serious sin. It engenders selfishness and can produce aggressive acts such as brutality,abortion, sexual abuse, and violent crime. Such stimulation can lead to acts of homosexuality, and they are evil and absolutely wrong" ("Making the Right Choices," Ensign, Nov. 1994, 38).



Edited: AGene on 20th Feb, 2004 - 5:17am

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This is news, but it is relevant as doctrine discussion here:

MARRIAGE DEBATE SPLITS CONGREGATIONS

The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints' endorsement earlier this week of an amendment to ban same-sex marriage was short and simple. If there was any debate or hand-wringing that accompanied the church's decision, it wasn't apparent in the 25-word statement.
https://deseretnews.com/dn/view/1%2C1249%2C...76265%2C00.html

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It seems like ABC News had a special on the lives of "Gay Mormons". I felt very sad for some of these Brethren and the way they feel.

Gay Mormons Face Excommunication

https://abcnews.go.com/Nightline/story?id=2051422&page=1



Edited: LDS_forever on 8th Jun, 2006 - 5:31pm

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This may seem harsh, but sometimes I read these things and wonder if 'they' see the Church as a means for Salvation or as a Social Club? When one considers the eternities I do not know how being gay can even be an issue to consider when it comes to spiritual progression.

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Exactly, JB. The bottom line is this: If the Church is true, God makes the rules. If God makes the rules, we are not to alter them. Also, he will provide a way for EVERY one of His children to follow the rules. I may have a congenital propensity to swipe silverware at dinner parties, but until I start stealing spoons, I am not a thief. Similarly, some may have a natural propensity to be sexually attracted to the same sex, but unless they act on it, they are not breaking the law of chastity. Even Christ was tempted, and nobody looks down upon Him for it. The difference is that He did not act on the temptations, except to resist them. God will provide a way out of every temptation, and a way to overcome the sins that occur when we fall. The returned missionaries in that article obviously do not believe nor understand the doctrine they were commissioned to teach for two years. Being gay, as a sin, is no different from being a smoker or a blasphemer or a liar or a thief. They each stem from a psychological hunger, which the sinner fills inappropriately with forbidden fruit. The solution for each problem is the same - the atonement of Christ. That is the message of the Church, and those who pout because the Church doesn't "meet their needs" need to reassess their "needs."

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It's a really hard thing to discuss because you can't really know what it's like unless you actually are gay. I fully support our church and whatever God would have us do, but I still wonder what it's all about. Those who aren't gay can say that they should have the same rights as everybody, even to marry without God's consent. Those who are gay know exactly how it feels, but might not want to accept that there is a way to resist it and pursue life without pursuing a partner. I think everybody in life has their fair share of temptations for what they can handle, and that is a big one that they might have to just resist. I don't know what God has in store for us, or if the church will ever allow it, but we should always follow what the prophet says at this current state of time.