Girls Make Mothers More Unclean?

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Post Date: 27th May, 2006 - 2:43am / Post ID: #

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Girls Make Mothers More Unclean?

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Why if a woman delivers a human female is she then considered to be more unclean?

"And the Lord spake unto Moses, saying, Speak unto the children of Israel, saying, If a woman have conceived seed, and born a man child: then she shall be unclean seven days . . . But if she bare a maid child, then she shall be unclean two weeks" (Leviticus 12:1-5).

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27th May, 2006 - 2:54pm / Post ID: #

Unclean Mothers Girls

The uncleanness for seven days after a boy is born may be actually an interruption of the process due to circumcision that was usually carried out at the eighth day after the child is born. If she would be consider "unclean" during that eighth day then she would not be able to witness the circumcision of her son.

Now with regards to why the cleaning takes longer if it's a girl, there are many theories. But I will quote what Levine said about it:

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Perhaps the best option is the one offered by Levine that the longer
period after the birth of a daughter would reflect the fact that the daughter's
own fertility and association with blood is anticipated. In addition the longer
time for purification for the daughter may be an intentional polemic against the
practices and viewpoints of the pagan religions of the ancient Near East.  By
excluding the mother from the tabernacle for a longer period after the birth of
a female, a distance is created between fertility and the worship of God.  This
would communicate in strong terms that God is not at all subject to processes of
procreation as is the case of deities in pagan beliefs but he in fact is the one
who blesses with new life [Levine, Leviticus, 250.]  Longer periods of
uncleanness after the birth of a girl were also customary among the Greeks and
various African peoples including the Egyptians [Mact, ?A Scientific
Appreciation of Leviticus 12: 1-5,? 254-55.]



Post Date: 27th May, 2006 - 6:53pm / Post ID: #

Girls Make Mothers More Unclean?
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I have a different take on this one. I think that the period of unclean lasts less for a male because a male child needs to be attended to more after the circumcision. A female child, not being circumcised, would not need to be comforted as much without the trauma. Just a thought.

28th May, 2006 - 6:33pm / Post ID: #

Unclean Mothers Girls

Here again we are taking two lines only out of the Bible. Let's put it into context.
We know today that soap and water will take care of the "unclean" question. The God of the Jews didn't know that.
The God of the Jews knew nothing about the human reproductive process, except that putting a male, and female in close proximity caused children. The next passage is long, but every word on every line is important in showing God's idea that something different happens to a woman's body when she delivers a girl instead of a boy child. Delivering a girl child causes her to be "unclean" twice as long as for a boy child.

The Lord said to Moses, "Tell the Israelites: When a woman has conceived and gives birth to a boy, she shall be unclean for seven days, with the same uncleanness as her menstrual period. On the eighth day, the flesh of the boy's fore-skin shall be circumcised, and then she shall spend thirty-three days more in becoming purified of her blood; she shall not touch anything sacred nor enter the sanctuary till the days of her purification are fulfilled.
If she gives birth to a girl, for fourteen days she shall be as unclean as at her menstruation, after which she shall spend sixty-six days in becoming purified of her blood. When the days of her purification for a son or a daughter are fulfilled, she shall bring to the priest at the entrance of the Meeting Tent a yearling lamb for a holocaust and a pigeon or a turtledove for a sin offering. The priest shall offer them up before the Lord to make atonement for her, and thus she will be clean again after her flow of blood. Such is the law for the woman who gives birth to a boy or a girl child. (Leviticus 12:1)


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atone  1: RECONCILE  2:  to MAKE AMENDS  3: reparation for an OFFENSE or injury
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Passing blood at childbirth is a sin that is offensive to God. So each new mother has to go to the priest and make amends for her offense. I can see this in my mind's eye. The woman bows to the ground. The priest says, "You delivered a child? Boy or girl? That will be one lamb and one turtle dove or pigeon. Next!"
After becoming clean, the woman still had to take a sin offering to the priest. Was the 'sin" to have a child, or was the 'sin" really just because God had a blood fetish?



28th May, 2006 - 8:06pm / Post ID: #

Unclean Mothers Girls

I don't believe that the "unclean" laws indicate in any way that God had a "blood fetish" or that He didn't understand the human reproductive system, or any other indication that God is not or was not perfect. I think it had everything to do with bringing an apostate, degenerate group of people, filled with superstition and false doctrine, out of those states. If you think about it, those laws protected the women and children.

Remember, up until recently, infant mortality rates throughout history have been extremely high. That is largely because of the fact that most people didn't live even the simplest rules of hygiene. The cleanliness laws of the Law of Moses addressed these things, using words and concepts that these degenerate, superstitious people could follow.

By designating the women and little girls as being "unclean" for a certain amount of time, they were both removed from the common, disease bearing community. The same thing for the little boys. Now, why was the unclean period longer for boys than for girls? Perhaps it was something as simple as the fact that the men would have rebelled even more if they couldn't get hold of their sons right away. Or, perhaps it was because everyone took as much care as possible to protect boys, but couldn't be bothered to protect and care for girls. Since this is still a problem in many current societies (Middle Eastern, Oriental, and African) maybe by demanding a longer period for births involving girls, it pointed out that they needed special care.



29th May, 2006 - 4:01pm / Post ID: #

Girls Make Mothers More Unclean?

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I don't believe that the "unclean" laws indicate in any way that God had a "blood fetish" or that He didn't understand the human reproductive system, or any other indication that God is not or was not perfect.


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  "You shall not offer the blood of my sacrifice with leavened bread;  (Exodus 23:18)

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The priest shall splash the blood on the altar of the Lord at the entrance of the Meeting Tent and there burn the fat for an odor pleasing to the Lord.  (Leviticus 17:3)

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Taking the living bird with the cedar wood, the scarlet yarn and the hyssop, the priest shall dip them all in the blood of the bird that was slain over the spring water, and then sprinkle seven times the man to be purified from his leprosy.  (Leviticus 14:1)

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When a woman is afflicted with a flow of blood for several days out-side her menstrual period, or when her flow continues beyond the ordinary period, as long as she suffers this unclean flow she shall be unclean, just as during her menstrual period.  Any bed on which she lies during such a flow becomes unclean, as it would during her menstruation, and any article of furniture on which she sits becomes unclean just as during her menstruation.  Anyone who touches them becomes unclean; he shall wash his garments, bathe in water, and be unclean until evening.  If she becomes freed from her affliction, she shall wait seven days, and only then is she to be purified. (Leviticus 15:25)


If she becomes freed? When the female flows past her time it is called hemorrhaging. Something is medically wrong that could, and often does, cause death. But the God that "created" this body told her to go to her tent because she was unclean? Again the God of the Jews knew nothing about the human body! No matter, eight days and two turtle doves to the priest for her sin, and she"ll be right as rain!

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"After this take the other ram, and when Aaron and his sons have laid their hands on its head, slaughter it. Some of its blood you shall take and put on the tip of Aaron's right ear and on the tips of his son's right ears and on the thumbs of their right hands and on the great toes of their right feet. Splash the rest of the blood on all sides of the altar. Then take some of the blood that is on the altar, together with some of the anointing oil, and sprinkle this on Aaron and his vestments, as well as on his sons and their vestments, that his sons and their vestments may be sacred. (Exodus 29:19)


Blood on the tip of the right ear, on the thumbs of the right hand, and on the great toes of their right feet? Splash blood on the altar? Mix blood with oil and sprinkle it on Aaron, his sons and their vestments so that they may be sacred? How were they able to stand in this bloody mess? How did they distinguish left from right when they were covered with blood? But who among these people had the intestinal fortitude to say to this God, "I don't think I want any blood on the tip of my right ear just yet. Maybe later."
The God of the Jews had a blood fetish! Many celebrate it to this day. They drink wine or grape juice in great reverence, drinking the "blood" of Christ.

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fe-tish  also fe-tich \"fet-ish  also "fet-\ n [F&Pg; f"etiche, fr. Pg feitico, fr. feitico artificial, false, fr. L facticius factitious] 1 a: an object believed among primitive people to have magical power to protect or aid its owner; broadly: a material object regarded with superstitious or extravagant trust or reverence  b: an object of irrational reverence or obsessive devotion   
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Reconcile Edited: Nighthawk on 29th May, 2006 - 5:42pm



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