Is Religion Absolute?

Is Religion Absolute - General Religious Beliefs - Posted: 15th Apr, 2009 - 4:12am

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16th Feb, 2009 - 11:53pm / Post ID: #

Is Religion Absolute?

Is Religion Absolute?

If it is not then why do most people of religion talk in the know and not in the belief. For instance, if I learned about China in books but have not been there, will my words sound the same as someone who has been and lived in China? I bring this up because in reading a lot of thoughts of people who Discuss religion I see where they speak in the 'absolute' or in other words 'this is the way it is...' but there is no support for why they see it as the way it is. Rather it is just speculation, myth or opinion most times.



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17th Feb, 2009 - 1:54am / Post ID: #

Absolute Religion Is

I see nothing wrong with someone holding absolutes for themselves, but at the same not limiting others (or being more subjective) in what others believe.


I am sure we all have absolutes that we hold (No committing adultery, faith above all else, certain commandments that we believe to be inviolate in our own lives), but we forgive in others and accept and defend there right to disagree.

So maybe a good rule of thumb is absolute religion for oneself, while being more open to others believing as they will.



17th Feb, 2009 - 2:09am / Post ID: #

Is Religion Absolute? Beliefs Religious General

Good of you to try and make absolute religion specific to one's personal belief, but I find that often religion is not so independent. Religion is usually taken based on the beliefs of what others say is absolute and not what one knows is absolute. You have a good point about not trying to limit other's beliefs, but again often people say how something should be understood even though there is no factual information to base that understanding. We see evidence of this when someone says something and then uses what someone else says to back up their point. Using the China example... it is like me trying to tell you about China based on what has been written about China according to 'x' person. If I then tell you about China in absolute terms because of 'x' person then am I right in what I say or am I merely hoping 'x' is right? If I am hoping then that is not absolute and my words about it should be constructed as such and not as though I know, because I don't. This is my point about people who talk about religion in absolutes.



Post Date: 15th Apr, 2009 - 3:56am / Post ID: #

Is Religion Absolute?
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Absolute Religion Is

Religious laws, and by that I mean laws dictated by God, are the only things that can be absolute.

You, as a man, will never have the power to determine an absolute. Mankind lacks that ability. Your rules will always be based on your current goals or those of society. A person needs a reason for something to be true.

For example: Slavery is wrong. Right?
Why is it wrong? Because it usurps the rights that society has given human beings.

But ask that same question to someone a few hundred years ago in The USA. Ask that question a few thousand years ago almost anywhere else in the world.
You might get a completely different answer. That is because society and its goals have changed.

God is the only being that has the ability to determine an absolute, and it does not need a reason. Why? Because it knows everything, it is omnipotent. So, being able to see and know everything, what it says has to be right, regardless of reason. If God says "Slavery is wrong", it is wrong, absolutely.

But suppose man begets God, then God's views and laws, as written by man, will most likely reflect only society's goals. It is a very tricky subject.

15th Apr, 2009 - 4:12am / Post ID: #

Absolute Religion Is

I'm not sure I understand your Post. You are in fact declaring absolutes yet there is no absolute way described by you to know what gods laws are and whether said laws even came from god. God is based on what the individual or organization says god is, but that may not be god - again trying to make an absolute to what one does not know as an absolute. I find it interesting that you refer to god as "it".




 
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