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Name: Anna
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Title: Zero Point

Comments: The problem is that we can not make those definitions from the 3rd dimensional perspective. Outside the 3rd dimension (or above) there is no linear time. We in our 3rd dimensional perception see time to be linear and thus there is the logic that cause and effect can not be in the same place. But the higher you go in dimensions and take time out of the equation, you go to the NOW and back to zero point, then cause and effect exist in the same place, creator is creation, cause is effect. There is no duality but the law of one. I might be wrong but this is how I would understand it from the research I have done. Trying to understand the laws of the universe from the 3rd dimensional perspective is impossible.

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Post Date: 2nd Nov, 2011 - 7:03pm / Post ID: #

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Name: Art
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Title: You're funny.

Comments: To the guy who gave that wind analogy: I can feel wind. There is undeniable proof wind is there.

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Comments: The simplistic view that if no one ever sees God, then He(God) does not exist is a fallacy.Who has ever sees wind?But we often say, it is windy or there is a storm today!Where is the origin of wind?Who created the wind or who often directs the wind? Despite the fact that we do not have answers to the above questions, we believe wind exist.Why don't we believe that God exist

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Name: KD
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Comments: [In my opinion] Your thinking is not logical and in fact, circular. Astrophysics has pinpointed the moment of the "big bang" or moment of creation. So now we all know there was a moment when time, space, firmament came into being. What was there before? Something, or someone caused it. Since none of us were there when it happened, many of us can look into the Bible and read a written account of how it happened handed down thousands of years. And, so you know, the Bible is NOT a religion. Why don't you look for yourself and read the creation account? Instead of making up things you only HEARD were in the Bible. Try reading some of Hugh Ross's information, an astrophysicist, he can give you wonderful insight into creation.

Post Date: 10th Jun, 2012 - 6:03pm / Post ID: #

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Name: Andvari
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Title: Causality

Comments: A fundamental framework for causality was established in General Relativity. A cause must precede an event for all inertial observers within a light cone (see Minkowski diagram).

Spacetime is an intrinsic part of causality. Spacetime is also an intrinsic part of the universe.

The amount of time that has passed from the beginning of the universe until now is finite.

Before the beginning of the universe time did not exist, therefore neither did causality.

Therefore the law of cause and effect cannot apply before the beginning of the universe.

Arguments that the law of causality requires the existence of God to create the universe are thus invalid.

If they were still valid it the question becomes why is God exempt from this logic? What is the cause of God?

Post Date: 3rd Jul, 2012 - 5:57pm / Post ID: #

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Name: Chosen
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Title: Intuition

Comments: When one looks into the world of creation you feels a since of worship. As if someone is greater than all. When you put down religion and science you can still intuitively come to the conclusion of who? Created all of this. When you do bring in the second law of thermodynamics your forced again to reason that the universe is not after all eternal. When you bring in religion as some hate to do your also forced with (Heb 3:4). It says that every house is build by a builder so He who created all things is God. The law of cause and effect says that everything that has a material beginning has a cause. So it's not really religion or science but it's more on the lines of intuition. Intuition tells you that there has to be someone greater that created the finite. A uncaused cause.

Post Date: 8th Jul, 2012 - 10:52pm / Post ID: #

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Name: Wuffendok
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Title: Frogs

Comments: Frogs at the bottom of the well thinks the sky is as big as the opening of the well.And he is happy and convinced of that because he was born to see a sky as big as a pie. Humans are born our size therefore we thing everything in our world should behave they way we see daily. Shrink yourself to the size of a sub-atomic particle or blow yourself up to the size of a galaxy. What do you see? You will see worlds very different from yours. That is why we call them bizarre, weird and many refuse to believe until confronted by tons of evidence. Something CAN and DID come from nothing. It is called virtual particles. Seething inside a perfect vacuum (nothing), are virtual particles and virtual anti-particles. They annihilate each other shorter than the Plank time 10^-44sec (quantum effect). There are conditions/ways to prevent annihilation and Pronto! you have something. This is no longer a theory. Science has teased matter out of vacuum many times. Whenever we don't know something don't bring God into it. The answer may just be around, it just takes a bit time.

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Post Date: 10th Dec, 2012 - 10:02pm / Post ID: #

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Name: Child of God
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Title: Law of Casuality

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In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters. And God said, Let there be light: and there was light. And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day. Gen 1:1-5


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Bless the LORD, O my soul. O LORD my God, thou art very great; thou art clothed with honour and majesty. Who coverest thyself with light as with a garment: who stretchest out the heavens like a curtain: Psa 104:1-2

Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear. Heb 11:3


Before the big bang nothing of our universe existed, not even time or space. It truly was in the beginning when God caused the universe to explode out of nothing. One of the laws of physics is the law of causality which paraphrased says an effect can not be part of it's cause. Translation - nothing cannot produce something anyway you look at it unless acted on by an outside force - in this case God. Space, time, matter, and energy spread out like a curtain at God's command. Why didn't the universe collapse immediately back upon itself due to the immense affects of gravity as physics tells us it could have? Obviously there was enough force to overcome gravity, but this would just as likely have resulted in no matter heavier than hydrogen ever forming in the universe. In the words of the philosopher why is there something instead of nothing (but hydrogen)? Genesis 1:2 tells us it is because the Spirit of God was hovering over creation and He chose to overcome the laws of physics which He set in motion by perfectly balancing the big bang event. In the big bang model of creation it is expected that photons would have been the first recognizable particles of matter to form. A photon is a particle of light. Imagine that! Many billions of years pass with stars forming and collecting into swirling galaxies. The newly forming sun condenses until the nuclear furnace ignites, light fills the solar system. - +15 billion to 5 billion years ago.

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