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His death covered two area's. One, he died that all might live, his death provided the way that all of us may be resurrected (even the sons of Perdition).

The second, he died for all those who would come unto him and repent. So those who truly repent of their sins and transgressions.

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Christ died 1) so everyone can be resurrected. So, in essence, he died for all mankind. However, the atonement, which is different from merely "dying" was for all those who believe on his name. And, as we are told in the Doctrine and Covenants, all those who do not believe in his name, must suffer even as Jesus. Which suffering caused him the greatest of all pains. D&C19. Great Section.

So, in short, to answer your question. Jesus death was two parts

1) death and resurrection to all, for free, even Cain!
2) death and atonement, to all, who believe on his name, or else they have to suffer even as Jesus suffered (I am in no way attempting to say that they will be crucified, or anything similar to physical nature in which Jesus suffered. Rather, since Christ's atonement was to take upon the sins of the world, individually, each man must take upon him his own sins...quite humbling).

JoJo

Just Who Did Jesus Die For? Studies Doctrine Mormon

I look at it in terms of family structure and the Church's structure. Heavenly Father's spirit children constitute His stewardship. He is our "Supreme Bishop" if you will, the only one with final say when it comes to our spirituality, worthiness, blessings, etc...

Jesus Christ's atonement offers mercy to all of God's children, all of the time. That's one way it's infinite and eternal. However, if indeed there are other "heavenly fathers" with their own spiritual children, I think it would be contrary to priesthood principles and the doctrine of righteous dominion for one God to intervene in another God's family affairs.

Where does this leave us? I don't believe that Jesus Christ's atonement would reach beyond the stewardship of our Heavenly Father, or to any spirit children who had not come from our specific Heavenly Father. That would be like a bishop in Ward "A" disfellowshipping someone in Ward "B," or more to the point, it would be like a bishop in Ward "A" issuing a temple recommend to someone in Ward "B."

So yes, I believe that all of the worlds which reside within the Kingdom and stewardship of our Heavenly Father, and which are peopled with His spirit children, are under the effects of Christ's atonement. Let me illustrate this with an example (not doctrinal, but hypothetical).

Suppose we have a Heavenly Grandfather (basically, the spirit Father of our Heavenly Father). If salvation is unchanged throughout eternity, and administered according to the same pattern, we may safely assume that if our Heavenly Father went through mortality as we are now doing, His Heavenly Father (our Heavenly Grandfather) would have provided a savior to facilitate our Heavenly Father's salvation and exaltation to His current status of perfection and godhood. If that were the case, then the sacrifice of our Heavenly Father's savior (the one who made possible His exaltation) would not extend to His future spirit children.

In other words, Jesus is my savior; if I am exalted and attain godhood, perhaps I'll have spirit children of my own; if I end up in a position where I need to administer salvation to my spirit children, they would need a savior; I don't believe Jesus' sacrifice would apply to my spirit children in that case; there would need to be a savior from among my own spirit children. Why?

I believe that my spirit children would be my stewardship, just as Jesus and I were Heavenly Father's stewardship. Said another way, my spirit children would be like my "ward," and I would be like their "Bishop" (with a capital "b"). I would be the highest authority as far as they are concerned, just as Heavenly Father is the highest authority as far as I am concerned.

I don't see Christ's atonement as a waterfall sacrifice, spilling down through countless generations of spirit children sired by those of us who become gods and exalted. I see each god's family or kingdom needing its own savior.

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Jesus died for inhabitants all over the galaxy. In the beginning there was only one chosen Christ for us all and he died for all of our sins. And he died for heavenly Fathers Children, so he died for heavenly father's childern because Jesus was to die for heavenly fathers childern.

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"The first principle of the gospel is faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. This includes faith in His divine birth and heavenly heritage and faith that, under His Father's direction, He created the earth and all things that dwell therein (see John 1:10; Mosiah 3:8). At the very heart of our faith in Christ is the assurance that through His atoning sacrifice, though our sins may be as scarlet, they can become as white as snow (see Isaiah 1:18)."
(Spencer J. Condie, "Claim the Exceeding Great and Precious Promises," Ensign, Nov. 2007, 16)