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LDS Astrology / Mormon Horoscopes
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I used to be fascinated about Horoscopes when I was younger, I always liked the mythical part of things but then when someone pointed out that the Church believes those things are from Satan and have scripture back-up for it, I totally abandoned the idea. Nowdays, we find many faithful LDS members who describe themselves as being 'Aquarius' or 'Cancer' or Gemini', some of them do not know what the Church thinks about these things (In all my years in the Church I have never heard a talk in sacrament meeting about it). I think it would be very useful if they do because some people are involved with these kind of things and they are not aware of. By the other hand, some LDS members knowing is wrong they do not listen the words of the Prophets and admit they do read the horoscopes and stuff and it is just an 'innocent' kind of thing. Is there an innocent purpose on Satan's work?.
I found this interesting article about it in lds.og. I will try to put here the most interesting parts and then you can read the whole thing online:
QUOTE 1. Astrology is based on the idea that the Earth is at the center of space, with the sun, moon, planets, and stars revolving around it. If astrology worked under those false ideas, why does it now work under a completely different concept?
2. There is a slight wobble in the Earth's axis, which has moved the starting point of spring (Scientists call it the vernal equinox) out of its ancient position in Aries and almost through Pisces. The astrologers tell us that the sun is in Aries when in fact it has left Aries and is getting close to Aquarius. How then does Aries still influence people?
3. Astrologers claim that the only constellations of stars that influence our lives enough to matter are the 12 constellations of the zodiac, through which the sun, moon, and planets appear to pass. Why so? Orion has brighter stars than the constellations of the zodiac and is closer to the path of the sun, moon, and planets than large parts of many zodiac signs.
4. Astrologers tell us that there are 12 signs of the zodiac. But many star atlases show 13 constellations along the path of the sun, moon, and planets. (The 13th constellation is Ophiuchus, the Serpent Bearer.) Why do Sagittarius and Scorpio influence our lives, but not Ophiuchus?
5. The constellation Leo the Lion is supposed to cause some people to act like a lion: proud, kingly, as one in authority. What if the ancients had named that group of stars Lulu the Lamb? Would those stars then make people timid?
6. Astrologers claim that the sign of the zodiac that is rising over the horizon at the moment of your birth is vitally important in determining your whole future. Why that sign? Why not the one directly overhead at the time or the one just setting? How does the ascendant sign manage to cancel out the influence of the other zodiac signs that are nearby?
7. People at or near the poles have the sun above the horizon for up to six months at a time. The moon remains in the sky for two weeks nonstop. Some planets are above the horizon for months at a time without setting. Shouldn't people born in northern Finland or southern Argentina (In latitudes approaching the poles) be drastically different from other people since they live where such unusual circumstances occur?
8. The ancients knew nothing of Uranus, Neptune, or Pluto but were supposedly able to make accurate horoscopes anyway. In those days Uranus, Neptune, and Pluto apparently had no influence on people's lives. Why then do most astrologers today include these planets in their horoscopes?
9. And what of asteroids? Astrologers do not plot the location of such bodies on their horoscopes. Yet most of the asteroids in our solar system exert far more gravitational influence upon the Earth and its people than even the nearest stars. How can astrologers overlook bodies up to 500 miles in diameter so close to the Earth?
10. Then there's Pluto. At great distance from the Earth, this tiny planet nonetheless is said to have great influence on the fate of humans on faraway Earth. If Pluto can influence us, why not the moons of Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune, all of which are closer to Earth and many of which are larger than Pluto? How can astrologers omit the influence of these bodies from their horoscopes?
11. Astrologers tell us that light radiations from distant stars and planets influence the decisions we make. But the stars near the horizon are weaker than those overhead, having more atmosphere to pass through. Why then is the weaker light of the ascendant sign on the horizon more important in our lives than the stronger light of signs overhead?
12. And what of light curved by Earth's atmosphere and gravity? In the morning the sun, moon, or planets might be seen as if in the ascendant house above the horizon when in fact they are still below the horizon in the zone of another house. How could an astrologer be accurate if he charted the sun in one house above the horizon (The all-important ascendant zone) when it was actually below the horizon in a different house?...
In modern times the Saints have repeatedly been warned to place their faith in God and in his priesthood and to shun Satan's works. How can Latter-day Saints seriously believe in astrology when the Lord and his prophets have denounced it? What need have we of horoscopes when we have the gift of the Holy Ghost, and patriarchal blessings, and prophets, and scriptures? Of what interest is pottage to those who are heirs to the birthright?.
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Post Date: 24th Sep, 2004 - 5:31pm / Post ID: #
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I have to admit I have read a lot about horoscopes mostly my own. It seams that every religion has there version of the pat blessing. Horoscopes are completely based on your personality and your future. You should already know your personality. And if you read them all you can put yourself in any one of them. You can find a trait in each one of them that fits your personality. And a lot of them fit most people. It is like a psychic asking if you have a pet or have had one in the past. 99.9% of the population has. If half of those started with a gg sound and the 40% of them started with an ss sound. And the last of them had the sound of bb sound. Then you start out with the gg sound then the ss then the bb and you will hit on one of them. After 10 trys you can come up with a close name. After that you are a psychic and you can tell them what ever you want. Same concept with the horoscopes. I have seen people not come to work because their scope says it will be a bad day for them.
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| I have seen people not come to work because their scope says it will be a bad day for them. |
Now with all respect, that's ridiculous!!! and I think there lies the danger of people becoming to involved with those kind of things, it always starts as a funny game until some people believe me to be true.
Post Date: 25th Sep, 2004 - 1:32am / Post ID: #
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Heh. I got the point long before you went into the 12 point list (odd... you listed 12 items? Coincidence?). Zodiac stuff has never made much sense. What makes even less sense, slightly off topic but still talking about zodiac stuff, is that in the Chinese Zodiac the dragon is the only fictional animal (unless you use the Hebrew version of the word, but there's already a snake on there). That's never made sense to me.
It's odd that we have all of this, and yet there's not many theories on animals beyond reincarnation. I have a few of my own (tied loosely around LDS teachings too), but I'll not let this go off topic at the moment. 
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One of the interesting things about the modern astrologers is this: Pick up any newspaper or magazine with current horoscopes, and compare it to another. They will be substantially different from each other on any given day/week. So how can they all be true? Ridiculous. And they are so vague, anyway, that there is always someone, somewhere, who can relate to something said in *any* of the horoscopes for that day. Which is why a lot of newspapers post them in the section for "entertainment."
I once "had my chart done" by a man who was a friend of my husband's. He claimed that a good astrologer could tell which one of a set of identical twins had a hidden birth mark just by looking at the alignment of the planets at their time of birth. It was all very interesting, but I surely wouldn't bet my life on it.
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Roz
Post Date: 27th Oct, 2004 - 3:59pm / Post ID: #
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| QUOTE (LDS_forever @ 24-Sep 04, 6:38 AM) |
| I used to be fascinated about Horoscopes when I was younger, I always liked the mythical part of things but then when someone pointed out that the Church believes those things are from Satan and have scripture back-up for it, I totally abandoned the idea. Nowdays, we find many faithful LDS members who describe themselves as being 'Aquarius' or 'Cancer' or Gemini', some of them do not know what the Church thinks about these things (in all my years in the Church I have never heard a talk in sacrament meeting about it). |
The Lord tells us in scripture that the Sun, Moon, Stars and planets were meant to be for "signs," "seasons," "days and years" (see Gen: 1:14). Additional scripture tells us that the "heavens declare the glory of god" (Psalms 19) that the Sun is symbolic of Jesus Christ (Psalms 19; Malachi 4: 2; Revelation 1: 12), that the earth, its motion, and the "planets which move in their regular form do witness that there is a Supreme Creator," and that "all things have their likeness" and were "created and made to bear record of [Christ]."
The fact that man has twisted the symbolism involved should not deter us from seeking the truth about the Sun, Moon, Stars, Planets and Constellations and how they bear testimony of Jesus Christ. In fact, there is a wealth of knowledge regarding these truths on the internet. I'm suggesting two sources, one a non-LDS Christian author of the nineteenth century and one from an active Latter-day Saint who just so happens to also be an astronomer. Here are the sources:
"The Witness of the Stars," by E. W. Bullinger: https://philologos.org/__eb-tws/default.htm
"What Every Mormon Should Know About Astronomy," by John P. Pratt:
https://www.johnpratt.com/items/docs/lds/me.../mormastr2.html
In addition, Pratt has an extensive collection of articles for LDS:
https://www.johnpratt.com/items/docs/lds/index.html
LDS Astrology / Mormon Horoscopes
In my opinion, and I do not want to offend anyone that may be struggling with this, but I do see the use of astrology among members of the church as a definite sign of a weakened or faithless state. It is like the Word of Wisdom which was made for the weak and weakest of saints. For you to look at a paper or web site to tell you how you are going to do on any given day is patethic in spiritual terms. As a child of God you will necessarily need to understand the power is within you and not some fool hardy money making astrologist.
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