Let's think about it this way. If you take some babies - boys and girls alike, and put them in the wild, without teaching them anything or even speaking to them. If you do that, when the babies will grow, their primary objective will be sex, food, water, and oxygen. Like all living things.
However, if you keep them with you, teach them, be next to them, they will learn the morals of society which are for love and alike. Sex is your primary objective as an individual organism, but not as a part of society. I guess that's what I was trying to say.
If you're talking about survival of the species, then perhaps that's the only thing that makes any real difference -- if you're an animal.
I don't think we're talking about the same thing, here. The purpose of life for Humans, for "Mankind," is not just sex and reproduction. It's been shown over and over throughout history that Man has always strived to improve, to progress; we're hardwired to learn and explore.
Maybe if you took a bunch of babies out into the wilderness, the first generation would be all about survival -- food, water, sex, etc. But the next generation would progress beyond that, the next generation beyond that, etc.
IMO
Roz
Yeah - that is right (although it may take really really long. Remember, the babies learned nothing.Language, what is right, what is wrong. ) I didn't think of that. So would you say the need for society is part of us? that's interesting...
The babies weren't taught anything -- but you can bet they learned plenty! I would imagine they'd develop a primitive sign language in addition to a spoken language, and even develop basic rules and social structure. You'd be surprised how enterprising humans can be.
Yes, I do think we're programmed to form "society" -- recently there was even an article in Newsweek or Time (I forget which) that said our DNA is programmed to seek a "higher power"!
And it would still be my guess that the focus of our "babies'" lives would not be sex. For instance, how would they know that survival of their species depended on reproduction? They may have the instinct to mate, but that wouldn't be the purpose of their lives.
In my opinion.
Roz
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The babies weren't taught anything -- but you can bet they learned plenty! I would imagine they'd develop a primitive sign language in addition to a spoken language, and even develop basic rules and social structure. You'd be surprised how enterprising humans can be. |
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They may have the instinct to mate, but that wouldn't be the purpose of their lives. |
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Yes, I do think we're programmed to form "society" -- recently there was even an article in Newsweek or Time (I forget which) that said our DNA is programmed to seek a "higher power"! |
20 generations to develop a spoken language? Perhaps. But they will certainly communicate with one another in *some* way rather quickly because it's necessary; and as they discover that more nuance is needed, that will become more developed.
So you think that only if a being's mind is freed from the focus of food and survival will they ponder the greater world? That's possible, I suppose, but I'm not sure I agree completely with that scenario. The mind of Man never stops working, and each time the belly is satisfied, I believe the mind would "contemplate the cosmos."
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Such a paradox - we are programmed to form society and suppress instincts |
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Not until they will develop a government which will provide them with the necessities, will they do such thinking. |
There is an LDS scripture that I think sums up the purpose of life nicely.
...men are that they might have joy. (2 Nephi 2:25)
Now, at face value, you might think this is a shallow way to view life. However, if you really give it some thought, you might see how it makes sense.
What is joy? Without food, you will not be totally happy. Without companionship and perhaps sex, you won't be totally happy.
Without shelter, you won't be totally happy.
So, we can be happy without certain things, but our "instinct" if you want to call it that is to work towards a more complete satisfaction. Just about everything we do, is with an eye towards perfecting our joy.
Edited: tenaheff on 9th Nov, 2004 - 8:53pm