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"The soul of our country needs to be awakened . . .When leaders act contrary to conscience, we must act contrary to leaders"
-- Veterans Fast for Life

Protesting, Mutiny, & Rebellion

How would you define when acts by citizens are considered to be just or against moral principle?

A good example of this is the English occupation of what is now the USA. Were the Colonist wrong to uprise against the King? Is it their right? Was it Mutiny?

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Terminology depends on the point of view and the specific situation. Here are some specific examples:

-Rebellion is a broad term, applicable to any individual or group who goes against the norms or mores of society, peer group, religion, family, or organization.

-Protest is intrinsically active. One does not protest in secret. Protest is speech and/or acts publicly displayed against a group, idea, individual, or situation. One does not have to be a member of an organization to protest it, as opposed to mutiny (see below).

-Mutiny seems more specific to a particular group under a leader. The crew of a ship, a team of engineers under one manager, a local church congregation, or the members of a rock band could act mutinously by rebelling against their stated leader.

NOTE: History is written by victors. The Civil War, sometimes called the Southern Rebellion, may well have been called 'The Southern Revolution' if they had succeeded (or seceded, as the case may be).

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Governments only exist because of the will of the people, it must therefore be true that the people have the right to remove a government and replace it with another; this would normally be done legally except where governments are themselves acting outside their mandate (Constitution) and unwilling to step down. In that case it would be lawful for necessary force to be used by the people to remove the unlawful organization or remove its influence from their territory.

This is my feeling.

Dubhdara.

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Then at what stage is it 'the voice of the people' or just the 'voice of the few' especially if only the few see the unjust created by their government and the masses just choose to ignore it. Do we start counting numbers?

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There is a distinct difference between the voice of the people and the will of the people. The voice of the people, which especially includes the media, represents the views of the most vocal people. These views are most often nudged toward the center so they are palatable to both sides, then reported as the public opinion. The will of the people is much more difficult to measure, because it stems from the home of the average citizen. Polls are seldom indicative of the will of the people, because they target those willing to speak openly about their views.

Significant change has most often come from those who gather with like-minded individuals to enforce their will - their deepest convictions. Sometimes these same people publicly deny their own beliefs, because of fear or pride. The will of the people is far ahead of the voice - the voice is reactionary and inaccurate.

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"To sin by silence when they should protest makes cowards of men"
-- Abraham Lincoln: 16th U.S. president, 1809-1865

We should never forget that everything Adolf Hitler did in Germany was "legal" and everything the Hungarian freedom fighters did in Hungary was "illegal."
~Martin Luther King, Jr., "Letter from Birmingham Jail," Why We Can't Wait, 1963

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So in the end, what are we really saying? Let us take the United States as an example... Should States Be Allowed To Secede? Is it just a matter of if they physically can as in the use of force?

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What would the United States be seceding from? We are a union of smaller states, each could obviously secede from the the union, but the United States itself cannot secede from anything really. However, I agree with the statement by Howe earlier, history is written by the victors. If the majority strive to accomplish something, it will happen. If it is not the majority, unless it is military, then it will most likely fail.

Rebellion is usually a larger amount of people who lose the fight.
Protest is any number of people that are out spoken against a certain issue.
And I believe mutiny is a small number of people against another person or persons within a larger group.

Just my opinion, don't really have much proof for it.