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The real rules of War.
Kill or be killed.
Live or Die.
Survive or go extinct.
When the other side does not follow the so called Rules of War what do you do?You fight as dirty as them.
Edited: dbackers on 3rd Aug, 2007 - 12:07am
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When the other side does not follow the so called Rules of War what do you do? |
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I was being a little Tongue in cheek when I wrote this, but I definitely have some quams about the way the Wars are being fought today.
When a country chooses to go to war I believe it is more Humane to go in quickly, try to win it, and do it quickly and violently enough to get to the point where you can help the Population rebuild. Sometimes in doing that members of that Civilian population may get killed. Sometimes you may do something that crosses the line But the first responsibility of a commanding officer is to protect his men.
Consider the following quote from the News week article "Rules of Engagement" by Rod Nordland and Babak Dehghanpisheh:
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In the battle for Fallujah the insurgents feigned surrender, waving white flags to approach within killing range of U.S. Marines and Iraqi government forces. They positioned their fighters in mosques, medical centers and civilian neighborhoods. They booby-trapped their fallen comrades' corpses and shot at crews trying to collect the Muslim dead. Practically every taboo has been discarded. Women, children and international relief groups have become deliberate targets. Ambulances are used to smuggle weapons. Torture of hostages has become a public spectacle, with videos passed out like press kits to TV stations, and posted on the Internet when the Arabic channels balk at showing such atrocities. |
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1. Declaration of War. 2. War should be limited to achieving a specific goal and it should end quickly. 3. Protect both combatants and non-combatants from undue suffering. 4. Soldiers should wear a distinctive uniform. 5. Help to bring peace afterwards. |
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QUOTE (Dbackers) |
Again I ask When the other side does not follow the so called Rules of War what do you do? |
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We could take this one step further. Say you are a country that declares war on another country and you lose. You sign a treaty of surrender that says you will comply with certain obligations...without objection or defiance. Failure to comply is stated that the war is back on and you will be invaded. You get your cease fire and are allowed to retain your government, but you do not comply with the obligations. You are invaded... was this a preemptive strike or a resumption of the war you started?
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Logically it is a resumption of war, however again with my point... the one has won already and is already in control so at anytime they can say that there was a violation of terms and there is no way for the losing country to prove otherwise to satisfaction of its victors. It is like being locked in a prison and then told to prove your innocence. Again I say there are no real rules save for the ones that the winning country chooses to impose.
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I have to agree with all you other members but today the world faces a different kind of war.
I remember this scene in a movie where the actress points to a painting which shows a jehadi terrorist with an ak-47 pointed at an unarmed man on his knees.. Then she says, "Who would you rather prefer to be? The person who is going to kill an innocent man or the man who is on his knees waiting to die?"
So, in my opinion, all the rules of war fall flat on their face because we have not seen any war on such a major scale as the world wars...
I think all of you had some good things to say about this topic. Firstly I had asked my dad about this previously and he said "yeah, there are and most countries try to follow them and try to be as humane as possible, but if the Germans won WWII would their leaders hae been convicted as War criminals, no. Some one added though Ill treat your prisoners nicely if you treat ours and that is the way I like to look at it. I also saw where some of you posted basic rules of War and it had stated that Armies must have clear uniforms, and the green berets are an exception to that rule when they go undercover to train guerillas, but if caught dressed like a civillian they are no longer helped by the Geneva convention rules of prisoners.