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Wives, Be In Subjection... - Page 2

A man and a woman have very special roles in the home, especially when children are involved. The man is the leader just as it literally says, but as pointed out so many times here he is fully accountable to his wife, his wisest consultant to who he is to cling.

Many think this is a great thing hey I am the boss I can do what I like. This is very much far from the truth. As the Leader you are responsible for every other soul in your home and ensuring you teach each one about God and to ensure they are saved. No light task and would be more then any single man could withstand. Thus God gave us the wonderful creatures we call our wives to stand besides us for constant reassurance and consultation on every act of major concern.

From the posts I see in this site I know many here believe and follow this path of life very closely and with great wisdom.

Subjection In Wives

I have always been a follower of this passage. I wanted a marriage to be a partnership where the husband is the ruler of the household while the wife was the cleaner and the one that prepares the food.

I have found that through divorce I was missing a lot. I know a marriage is a partnership and I know that I am to listen to the opinions of my wife. I never had a problem with that. I did have a problem with her thinking she was the supreme leader. But that is all past.

In my life now I am the leader of my house. Everything that happens in my house is a reflection of me. I want my house to look good and to be a place of relaxation. I try to be helpful and supportive of my wife and children so they can see that a true household is ran efficiently with everyone having a part in the whole. This way as they grow they can learn more and be able to provide for their families once they are out on their own.

I hope that I can keep leading a life that shows that I can love my wife and provide for her as the scriptures have told me too. I am not bossy and I think hard before a final discission is ever made.

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Despite all the many justifcations for this passage (it doesn't mean men can control women etc) what it represents is nothing more than age old Roman partiarchy still holding sway today. The reason people today say things like "it doesn't mean men can control women" is because we live in a world whose consciousness has been raised by feminism. when this passage was written it meant exactly that men could control women: the reason being that Roman society was built on the premise that a man-the Paterfamilias-was in control of his wife and children and any unmarried female relatives. A woman wasn't even a citizen and had no control other than that which her husband/father/uncle/brother or even grown up son allowed her-which wasn't very much.

Christians today water it down which is fine because women shouldn't be in subjegation to their husband/partner but follow an equality of partnership. Thank god for feminism.

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No we did not learn about marriage from romans but from God sorry Dougiep. Adam was given a wife that was made from his flesh and told to go and cleave to her. How can one do that unless there is respect for that person? It implied desire to have her company more then just the physical one also.

have doubts it is put pretty bluntly in Malachi 2:15.

In this case infidelity was the topic of discussion. If man is not to treat his wife well why bother talking him out of an affair?

One mind? Does not sound much like a dictatorship so much as a partnership where things are discussed before acts are done.


If these quotes are not being understood by me correctly please let me be told so I can better understand.

Subjection In Wives

Societies do not exist in isolation. We can note that as well as the man being the head of the family for the ancient Israelites so to was this case in much of the ancient world. That the Romans held this to be a cultural norm and their Empire covered almost all of Europe, North Africa and parts of the Middle East and the fact that the New Testament was written within that world is no coincidence.

The Genesis story reflects the culture of the ancient Jews. Women were created from men so, from their point of view, it is no surprise that a man should be her leader as well as her protector. However, women were still second class citizens because they were created after Adam. St Paul went this way too and the culture of Ancient Rome supported meaning it fit in well with the already established order. Hence, no one questioned it.

The Genesis story is not fact however. Women evolved just like men and were not created out of a rib from Adam.

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I think they are very clear to me. It is a marriage of minds in the fact that you and your wife or husband, whichever the case may be, are of one mind. Thus having the ability of two minds making the decisions that will effect you and your marriage for as long as you both live. I believe this could be where the saying "two minds are better than one" came from.

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Although this hints at having the wife in 'subjection' to her husband you have to take note of what kind of person Jesus is saying she needs to be in subjection to. The husband has to be gentle and loving doing only those things that Jesus would want him to do. It is not meant to make the man as some kind of dominant bully. Therefore any woman or man would not mind being in subjection to someone who is seeking their interests. It is called love.

Wives In Subjection... The Bible Revealed - Page 2

I think you are correct when you talk about "leading." The man is the leader of the home, but he is also in full partnership with his wife. This partnership should be built upon a relationship of love and mutual respect. If he leads with unrighteous dominion nobody will follow. There is nothing that says a wife is to follow her husband into hell. A couple should make all decisions jointly with much thought and conversation. If, as sometimes happens, they cannot come to a meeting of the minds then the husband "might" step in and make the final choice. If he is truly seeking what is best for his family he will not make the choice based soley upon his wants and needs but choose what is best for his family as a whole.