Chemistry Is Getting A Bit More Explosive

Chemistry Bit Explosive - Sciences, Education, Art, Writing, UFO - Posted: 25th Feb, 2005 - 3:29am

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Post Date: 18th Feb, 2005 - 3:28pm / Post ID: #

Chemistry Is Getting A Bit More Explosive
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Chemistry Is Getting A Bit More Explosive

I found this article on MSN about a chemistry teacher in Florida who was arrested for teaching his students how to make a bomb. Apparently he showed them the chemical break down on how to make a powerful explosion, and was even telling them about electric detonators so they wouldn't get hurt.

https://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6985768/

Makes one wonder what the students are being taught in their classes. Also, I have to wonder if there would be such an issue over this if we weren't living in post-9/11 days. I can remember being taught in my chemistry class what was needed to make an explosion. Granted, that was after 9/11 as well, but I can remember people who were in chemistry long before 9/11 talking about how they had learned to make things blow up.

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18th Feb, 2005 - 4:03pm / Post ID: #

Explosive Bit Getting Chemistry

My chemistry teacher never went to quite this extent, but I do know that demonstrations where he blew things up or set them on fire were a big factor in my attentiveness to the rest of his classes. I am inclined to assume that this chemistry teacher had good intentions, and that he is getting a bad rap because of an oversensitive, post-9/11 society (blah blah blah...). When I teach, I choose to go to the extent of my liberty to teach a principle to a class. The more senses one can involve in the classroom experience, the more likely the students are to comprehend and retain the material taught. The more unique the presentation, the more memorable the material. They should give this guy a break - he probably cares much more and expends much more effort than the teachers who choose to regurgitate book material in a droning lecture format.



Post Date: 18th Feb, 2005 - 4:36pm / Post ID: #

Chemistry Is Getting A Bit More Explosive
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I have to agree and say that 9/11 has definitely changed certain topics being taught in school such as bombmaking. I also think that all of the school related crimes that have happened in recent years have have effected teaching this sort of topic, as well. This is from the website on Homeland Security: The Role of Schools in a Post 9/11 Environment it says:

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The combination of the 9/11 tragedies and the imminent threat of war in the Middle East generates a new wave of concerns among school officials, students and parents. The specter of these threats comes on the heels of a series of serious school shootings that occurred in the late 1990s. During the past decade, more than 300 school-associated violent deaths occurred on or near school campuses in America.  Website:  https://www.nssc1.org/homeland_security.htm


As to what teachers are allowed to teach concerning bombmaking I found that, "On June 19, 1997, the Senate voted 94 to 0 to approve the Feinstein Amendment to S.936, the National Defense Authorization for 1998 Bill. The amendment prohibits the teaching of bombmaking for criminal purposes. Here is what is prohibited:

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PROHIBITION. -- It shall be unlawful for any person --

"(1) to teach or demonstrate the making or use of an explosive, a destructive device, or a weapon of mass destruction, or to distribute by any means information pertaining to, in whole or in part, the manufacture or use of an explosive, destructive device, or weapon of mass destruction, with the intention that the teaching, demonstration, or information be used for, or in furtherance of, an activity that constitutes a Federal criminal offense or a State or local criminal offense affecting interstate commerce; or
(2) to teach or demonstrate to any person the making or use of an explosive, a destructive device, or a weapon of mass destruction, or to distribute to any person, by any means, information pertaining to, in whole or in part, the manufacture or use of an explosive, destructive device, or weapon of mass destruction, knowing that such person intends to use the teaching, demonstration, or information for, or in furtherance of, an activity that constitutes a Federal criminal offense or a State or local criminal offense affecting interstate commerce."  Website:  https://cryptome.org/fein-sp419.htm


The parts I highlighted in bold are what stands out to me as whether teaching bombmaking is legal or not. I definitely think that there are warning signs that a student could exhibit that the teacher could foresee that the information taught could be used this way, but can it be proven that the teacher could predict that a student would use this information for criminal purposes? In my opinion, unless the student made statements about his intentions for committing a crime with the use of the information being taught, I think that it would be very hard to prove. The teacher in the article not only detonated chemicals in a coffee can by a ball field four times for his students, he watched a video that a student had made of setting off an explosive device at a golf course and approved of his successful results. In my opinion, this is questionable behavior by the teacher but I don't know whether he could foresee any crime being committed or not. I'm sure it is a crime to detonate an explosive on someone's private property, but the article didn't say anything about anyone being hurt. Still, I don't think the teacher needed to go to the extremes that he did to teach about the chemical reactions of a bomb.

Post Date: 25th Feb, 2005 - 1:17am / Post ID: #

Chemistry Is Getting A Bit More Explosive
A Friend

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See, I feel kind of torn on the issue. I don't think it's wrong for a chemistry teacher to teach about the chemicals that cause explosions; however, I certainl do not condone him going into detail by detail in making the bomb. That much I find rediculous. His getting arrested was a bit much though.

25th Feb, 2005 - 3:29am / Post ID: #

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The best teachers, in my opinion, have a passion for what they teach. This man apparently does: he loves chemical reactions, how they work, how long they take to work, what happens when they work correctly, and how to safely conduct experiments.

However, perhaps he did take it a little far by explaining to his class about electonic detonators -- is part of the class curriculum to set off a bomb? That just seems dangerous, and forget about "post 9/11" as a backdrop. Arresting the man seems a little over the top, though.

In my opinion, of course.
Roz




 
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