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What are your thoughts about soldiers that jump ship?
Post Date: 16th Jul, 2005 - 2:37am / Post ID: #

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Do you think a soldier that has served one term should try to 'dodge' going back for a second or third mission if he/she is not willing to fight for a war he/she deems either unjust or that he is unfit for either because of mental anguish or frustration?

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27th Jul, 2005 - 7:54pm / Post ID: #

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This is a very difficult topic to answer directly. With most other careers, if one were to feel uncomfortable or disagree with their superiors and/or their motives, they would walk away from the job. In the military, it isn't that easy. The one side of the argument is that no one should fight in a war that they think is wrong or unjust, but the other argument is that you joined the US military, which means you are committed to your responsibilities as a soldier, regardless of your individual opinion.
I personally feel that it is not right for folks in the military to desert their troops. However, I can't say 100% that I would feel the same way if I were in the army and disagreed with the cause that I was forced to fight for.


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12th Nov, 2005 - 3:21pm / Post ID: #

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This must be an act of real desperation to leave the USA just to escape the Iraq War. I wonder if such people can be seen as cowards or running from abusive powers?

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Post Date: 13th Mar, 2006 - 12:31pm / Post ID: #

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CANADIAN HELD FOR DESERTING U.S. MARINES IN 1968

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Post Date: 19th Mar, 2006 - 9:14am / Post ID: #

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When a soldier goes Awol. That's like the Ultimate low thing to do. You failed your unit and your team. It's no secret that your chances of going to was war are high when signing the dotted line. I believe desertion is punishable by death.

19th Mar, 2006 - 5:47pm / Post ID: #

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That seems a bit harsh, Darius, ---"should be punishable by death" ?

The soldiers who go awol must realize that they are deserting the rest of the troops, and that their actions would be frowned on, maybe they just don't see any other alternative?
I suppose what I am trying to say, is that they must have hit a major depression before they contemplate escaping the army, and feel that their is no other way out.

On the other hand, they have signed up to serve the army, and there should be ramifications for their actions, I just believe that the death penalty is a little bit too strict, maybe enforce some other type of punishment?


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19th Mar, 2006 - 9:43pm / Post ID: #

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QUOTE (Darius @ 19-Mar 06, 3:14 AM)
When a soldier goes Awol. That's like the Ultimate low thing to do. You failed your unit and your team. It's no secret that your chances of going to was war are high when signing the dotted line. I believe desertion is punishable by death.

Darius, I appreciate your perspective as a current soldier in the military. I have always felt this is how other soldiers feel about the subject of AWOL, but have never really conversed in person with a soldier to find out. I suspect your viewpoint is shared by the majority of the soldiers serving the US military. Going AWOL is almost similar to being a spy against your country, and I can see where the military considers the punishment should be just as severe.

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19th Mar, 2006 - 10:09pm / Post ID: #

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When a person goes AWOL in peacetime, they should be imprisoned for a very, very long time. They have a duty to their country, to their fellow military members, and especially to themselves. Going AWOL means that someone else has to now pull their load. That is especially bad in a short-handed military.

In wartime, going AWOL or deserting is especially bad. By going AWOL, the person is leaving their unit (team, squadron, squad, battalion, etc.) short a person when every person may be vital to the completion of the mission. It can easily lead to casualties.

Since the only real difference between AWOL and desertion is that AWOL is the first few days of desertion or the person returns to their post after a time, the penalties should be the same.

In my opinion, AWOL in peacetime should have a severe prison penalty. In wartime, it should be rewarded with the death penalty.


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