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28th Sep, 2006 - 9:33pm / Post ID: #

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Karl Rove did lie in court.

That much we do know. So he really should be charged for perjury. In evidence presented to the court he initially said he never had a conversation with a journalist revealing Plame's identity, when he in fact did. His lawyer withheld email evidence of this conversation that was later presented to court at a politically sensitive time.

We know that Armitage was the first person to reveal Plame's identity, but not the only one. Rove did so as well.

Whether this broke any law, or not, I do not know. But what it did do was show just how desperate the Government was to discredit a man who clearly said there was no evidence of WMDs in Iraq.

Wilson said there was no evidence, therefore he didn't lie. There is no proof whatsoever of WMDs. This isn't even a debate anymore, the Bush Administration admit they got it wrong.

I agree that Armitage is a political opponent of Bush to some degree. But, why would he want to try to protect the push for war if he was trying to bring down the administration? That doesn't make sense.

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What is very interesting about this is that the liberals still think that President Bush lied on this issue! This, despite the fact that there is now PROOF that he was completely truthful in his assertions about WMDs in Iraq, to the best of his knowledge.


Bush did lie on this issue. If he didn't, where is the evidence of WMDs? There has been none whatsoever. What proof do you have that he was truthful in his assertions?

Bush never said that he thought there was evidence of weapons. He point blank said there WAS WMDs. All along the three amigos - Bush, Blair and Howard - twisted intelligence, ignored the majority of good intelligence and spun rubbish to sell the war. They even made up complete lies linking Saddam to Bin Laden!

I don't buy this "to the best of their knowledge" excuse. Is it acceptable to totally destroy a country because of some threat that you are not sure about? If their knowledge isn't very good, which is what that excuse implies, then they should be kicked out of office. They make the decisions and have to live by it. Hundreds of thousands of lives have been destroyed because of this invasion. We know well over 100,000 lives have been lost. It's unacceptable.


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30th Sep, 2006 - 1:52am / Post ID: #

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Joe Wilson did NOT say that there were no WMDs in Iraq. He said that Saddam Hussein had not tried to get "yellowcake". However, within his official report, he DID say that Saddam Hussein had tried to get "yellowcake". There is also a lot of external evidence that Saddam Hussein attempted to get yellowcake from Africa.

Now, what George W. Bush said was that the English Intelligence agencies had evidence that Hussein was building WNDs. Since the British intel agencies still confirm that they had the information, exactly how did GWB lie?


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30th Sep, 2006 - 2:43pm / Post ID: #

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Arvhic said:

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Bush never said that he thought there was evidence of weapons. He point blank said there WAS WMDs


Nighthawk said:

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Now, what George W. Bush said was that the English Intelligence agencies had evidence that Hussein was building WNDs.


Let me all quote some excerpts from the White House Official Web Site, to see what exactly did Pres. Bush said and how he said it with regards to the WMD, he said a lot of things but I just want to quote those with regards the WMD at the present time:

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Eleven years ago, as a condition for ending the Persian Gulf War, the Iraqi regime was required to destroy its weapons of mass destruction, to cease all development of such weapons, and to stop all support for terrorist groups. The Iraqi regime has violated all of those obligations. It possesses and produces chemical and biological weapons

Members of the Congress of both political parties, and members of the United Nations Security Council, agree that Saddam Hussein is a threat to peace and must disarm. We agree that the Iraqi dictator must not be permitted to threaten America and the world with horrible poisons and diseases and gases and atomic weapons.

Some ask how urgent this danger is to America and the world. The danger is already significant, and it only grows worse with time. If we know Saddam Hussein has dangerous weapons today -- and we do -- does it make any sense for the world to wait to confront him as he grows even stronger and develops even more dangerous weapons?

Saddam Hussein is harboring terrorists and the instruments of terror, the instruments of mass death and destruction. And he cannot be trusted. The risk is simply too great that he will use them, or provide them to a terror network.

If the Iraqi regime is able to produce, buy, or steal an amount of highly enriched uranium a little larger than a single softball, it could have a nuclear weapon in less than a year. And if we allow that to happen, a terrible line would be crossed. Saddam Hussein would be in a position to blackmail anyone who opposes his aggression. He would be in a position to dominate the Middle East. He would be in a position to threaten America. And Saddam Hussein would be in a position to pass nuclear technology to terrorists....


His whole talk here: https://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/20...20021007-8.html

You all judge for yourselves...





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3rd Oct, 2006 - 7:59pm / Post ID: #

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Joe Wilson said in an NYT opinion piece in July, 2006, that the Bush Administration had twisted intelligence to exaggerate the Iraq threat.

In Wilson's report, he never actually claims a Saddam official sought to buy uranium from Niger. What he says is that an intermediatory had enquired whether a Niger official would meet an Iraqi about commercial sales. The Niger official declined. Wilson's report was twisted by the CIA and Bush Administration to suggest Saddam was seeking uranium.

Time report on Wilson

I think LDS has produced compelling and official evidence that Bush blatantly lied about Iraq.


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Post Date: 15th Oct, 2006 - 6:13pm / Post ID: #

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BUSH, ROVE STILL BRIMMING WITH CONFIDENCE

Amid widespread panic in the Republican establishment about the coming midterm elections, there are two people whose confidence about GOP prospects strikes even their closest allies as almost inexplicably upbeat: President Bush and his top political adviser, Karl Rove.
Ref. deseretnews.com/

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REPORT: KARL ROVE ANNOUNCES EXIT

Karl Rove, U.S. President George W. Bush's senior political adviser, is to resign at the end of August, according to a newspaper interview published Monday.
Ref. https://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/08/13/rov...sign/index.html

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Rove regrets weak defence of Bush

Strategist Karl Rove says he regrets not doing more to reject claims his boss President George W Bush lied about WMDs in Iraq. Ref. Source 3

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Campaign Cash: The Independent Fundraising Gold Rush Since Citizens United Ruling

A pair of campaign finance watchdog groups have called for a probe of a new nonprofit formed by Karl Rove to spend over $50 million this election cycle to help elect Republican candidates. The Center for Public Integrity reports Republicans and Democrats each now boast ten or so deep-pocketed independent groups with plans to spend collectively some $500 million or more. The groups are all taking advantage of this year's Supreme Court ruling in the Citizens United case that cleared the way for unlimited spending by corporations, unions and other interest groups on election ads. We speak to journalist and author Peter Stone of the Center for Public Integrity. Ref. Source 5

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