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Many of the women that I hear talking this nonsense of 'beating to show love' seems to be not well educated at all |
Domestic Violence is a real problem and should not be tolerated by any one, I am Indian and to say the least my father never raised his hands to my mother and none of my uncles or relatives were wife beaters, for the Indian people to be labled as such is unfair.
Domestic Violence exist everywhere, here in the States its a huge problem as well but we cannot lable the caucausion milddle class or the Hispanic population as wife beaters just because the majority of crimes of passion is occuring in those ethnic groups.
We do live in a patriarchal Society!
We should not point fingerslooking for blame, we should be building bridges not burning them.
I felt labled by this, it is unfortunate that we as Trini's need to find blame, rather than thinking of a solution to help our people understand that certain things are unacceptable help us break the cycle.
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We should not point fingerslooking for blame, we should be building bridges not burning them. |
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I felt labled by this, it is unfortunate that we as Trini's need to find blame... |
Hey JB, for you first Question I was speaking of Trinidadian in general.
Then for some reason the "Indian Families men are seen as masters" I am certainly a jack of all trades but a master of none.. The Indian family structure is not one of domimination and restriction, I am not saying it doesn't exist but is certainly not the majority.
But I do belive that there is some level of growth needed and certainly maturity for those who tend to be problematic.
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In Indian families, men are seen as "masters" of some sort. They typically arent allowed to clean, cook or take care of children, along with any other "female duties". This is condoned and promoted by their mothers, who treat them like royalty |
You are quoting Cookie, you should list the name of the person you are quoting next time as I still had to search who said that. Anyway...
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I know that may sound like an exaggeration, but its really true. And thats why so many Indian women find themselves in this situation. Its not to say that women of other races dont find themselves in these predicaments, but at the same time, in my opinion, the indian culture promotes this attitude more than others. |
Thanks for picking up my slack JB
Trini808, I apologize if I offended you in any way. I had no intentions of attacking a race I belong to and love, nor did I have any intention of attacking your gender.
Having said that, I grew up in an Indian home where my father had to be broken out of his "traditional" ways. I see the struggle involved in breaking away from what your history and culture has deemed acceptable. You, for one, cannot argue with the fact that men are GENERALLY revered in an Indian household. Of course there are exceptions, as in any situation. But the majority of my interractions are with Indian families, so I think I have a firm enough understanding of what typically takes place in those homes.
I distinctly remember placing some of the responsibility on Indian women for promoting the archaic traditions. Ive had many discussions with my mother about her still sometimes "backward" way of thinking. So my "attack" was not directed at just Indian males.
As an Indian woman, I see the positive and negative aspects of my culture. I see what attitudes are unecessary for our changing times...along with the attitudes which still remain a necessity...such as the importance of respecting one another...which is something that our culture deems to be of utmost importance.
Believe me, my father has never raised a hand to any woman...nor have my male relatives. But that doesnt mean that there isnt still a high occurrance in our race.
If you are concerned about "building bridges"...part of this involves learning our history...and learning FROM our history. We cant take our lives from today and continue living. We must look back and come to terms with WHY we are the way we are. Indians are obviously different from Europeans. Everything from late industrialisation to climate, affects the traits of different races.
There is nothing embarrassing about the traits we have. We have moved forward in so many ways. People generalise us as being good at math and science. Oh please...I was never good at either. But we as a race, dont dispute that, do we?
Nor do we as Trinidad Indians, dispute the fact that we "have all the businesses." Oh no, we definately dont dispute that. Because they show us in a positive light.
If you dont know any business owners or Indians who are exceptional in math..would you argue with those comments? I would be suprised if you did.
Its natural to shun the negative generalisations about your race, gender, political stance, or religion. These are sensitive topics. But to accept our differences and shortcomings is a true sign of change.
Again, I will say that all my opinions are based on what I know about MY race. Anyone else who is willing to post a reply regarding another race, is obviously welcomed to do so.
I hope you no longer feel as though I am pointing a finger at you or our race. JB and LDS were "brave" enough to reply to such a sensitive topic, and I think if we keep an open mind, we can all learn from one another.
I agree that there are some real stupid women out there and even some of my friends fall into this trap of giving in to their boyfriend's advantageous requests. I tell them they're crazy as hell, I ain't doing that.