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These laws should not apply to anyone from any coutrny. I don't think US citizens should be treated differently to others because they are American. I take your point about these laws eroding freedom in your country. Other countries are well known for suppressing the rights of their citizens, also with use of secret prisons. But I don't believe anyone, whther they are American or not, should be subject to draconian laws that ignore basic human rights.

The problem with this is how do you define someone as an enemy of the US? The Bush Government has a rather shocking record of deciding just who is an enemy. Look at Guantanamo Bay. A lot of innocent young men have been apprehended as enemies, held for years and subsequenty released because they could not be charged. That is why I have little faith in these laws.

Torture does take place in secret prisons. Just because Bush defines tortue as nothing short of killing or disabling someone does not mean they aren't being tortured. How would that sheltered rich kid know what torture is anyway? These laws really are just a mechanism to milk the terrorist fear to such extremes to keep US citizens scared. Everything that Bush and his pals do nowadays is hidden behind the illusion of terrorism. Until the people stand up, you will continue to lose basic freedoms, it's how the current Administration has held onto power for so long.

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Yeah, what frustrating is how little people seem to be educated about this. If they really understood what the Patriot Act says, they would never have allowed this law to be passed without marching on Washington! Patriot Act 13b defines domestic terrorism as anyone who commits a felony. The newest "terror" law allows for the imprisonment with no charge, bail, or time limit and torture of anyone SUSPECTED of being a terrorist or domestic terrorist. In other words, if you are suspected of committing a felony, you may just be screwed. Its no longer just to keep the citizens scared, its now a real weapon to use. I suspect in the ten years, they will find a way to limit what you can say against the government. Its sad how fast and obvious this is progressing, yet how much dog like loyalty there is to the president pushing it.

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Bush Defends Interrogation Methods

WASHINGTON - President Bush defended his administration's methods of detaining and questioning terrorism suspects on Friday, saying both are successful and lawful. "When we find somebody who may have information regarding a potential attack on America, you bet we're going to detain them, and you bet we're going to question them," he said during a hastily called Oval Office appearance. "The American people expect us to find out information, actionable intelligence so we can help protect them. That's our job."
Ref. https://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071006/ap_on_.../bush_terrorism

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I just read Bush statement that the US government does not torture. I suppose it has a lot to do with his definition of torture because the reports certainly speak otherwise.

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CIA 'wiped' interrogation tapes

The CIA says it destroyed tapes on the interrogation of al-Qaeda suspects, raising fears over the use of torture.
Ref. https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/a...cas/7132000.stm

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It's obvious the CIA is trying to cover up illegal torture methods here. What puzzles me is why there is no public or political pressure on the agency to clean up its act. If the CIA had nothing to hide, it would have disclosed the tapes while blurring the IDs of operatives. This yet again destroys the very questionable reputation of the CIA, which in many parts of the world is perceived as a terrorist organisation in its own right.

Is it acceptable for a government agency to act outside the boundaries of human rights as long as it is against perceived enemies? Where do we draw the line here?

I'm sure intelligence agencies across the world employ similar techniques. This example really highlights how these organisations function with impunity and are above any law.

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CIA to Hand Over Videotape Docs After Congress Threatens Subpoenas

The CIA has announced it will begin handing over documents to Congress about the destruction of videotapes showing the interrogation of two prisoners held in secret jails. The announcement came after the House Intelligence Committee threatened to subpoena agency officials if they wouldn¹t appear before the committee voluntarily. We speak with House Judiciary Chair John Conyers and former CIA analyst Ray McGovern. Ref. https://www.democracynow.org/2007/12/20/cia..._over_videotape

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Clive Stafford Smith: US Holding 27,000 in Secret Overseas Prisons; Transporting Prisoners to Iraqi Jails to Avoid Media & Legal Scrutiny

"There is a huge number of [secret prisoners] being held in Iraq, and one of the intriguing aspects of this that doesn't get much reporting is that the US is bringing people into Iraq from elsewhere to hold them there, simply because that keeps [the media and lawyers] away from the prisoners so they can't get any sort of legal rights," reports British attorney Clive Stafford Smith.
Ref. https://www.democracynow.org/2008/5/19/clive_stafford_smith