Name: Jen
Comments: Okay... so I'm in a hurry and don't have time to write a long response so I'll just say this:
1) how can you compare spanish speaking kids who can HEAR
2) what does deafness have to do with reading? uh alot
When students learn to spell and write they do so phonologically, even deaf students who lipread cannot fully access phonetic information (ex. bet, bed, men,Ben, pet, pen,etc....look exactly the same)
Like I said...I'm in a hurry...I was just looking for research on spelling with deaf students and found this site. I'm a deaf educator with alot more to say on the topic.
My Aunt is deaf so I am not unsympathetic to Deaf issues. But, when I read her writing it is evident that grammar is not her forte. I think ASL's abbreviations of grammar to simplify communication also puts the deaf at a disadvantage when speaking or writing in a public forum.
I believe that the ASL as a Language should reflect English grammar more closely so that when a deaf person is young, they are not immediately put at more of a disadvantage then they already are.
Name: Jessica
Comments: I am also taking a ASL class it is my second time doing so, and I agree that the hearing impaired should have interrupters or the test should be fixed in a way that deaf children can take it at their own standards.
Name: Deafmyself
Comments: ASL does have grammar, but it is not like spoken languages. The grammar is in the movement, the facial expression, and the speed which the signer makes the sentence. So, for example, in the sentence already given: Moon rocket go, the signer would have signed 'moon', then signed 'rocket and then signed the motion of the rocket going to the moon, allowing for the "listener" to see if the rocket took a slow, direct route, a long, circuitous one, a quick one, and so on. Meanwhile, the signer's face expresses the seriousness (or lack thereof) of the lunar mission. A great deal of information is conveyed that is not written in the sentence Moon rocket go. A good interpreter would, in fact, probably have interpreted the sentence quite differently, depending on what the signer was trying to say. At the very least the signer would be interpreted to have said, "the/a rocket went/is going to the moon.
If we were to translate 'The rocket goes to the moon" into Russian, a language without articles (actually what is called null articles, in other words they don't use the/an/a) then the sentence would come out something much closer to ASL, along the lines of 'Rocket goes to moon". I'm not sure of the proper word order, so they might even be one of those languages that drops the verbs to the end of the sentence, in which case it would be almost Identical to the written ASL version. Therefore, it is clear that the argument of ASL grammar is English-centric.
Name: Deafkid
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Comments: Well I was born deaf and already graduating with English, sign language and straight As. [I honestly blame the parents for not doing both so their child education would succeed] I believe that like every foreign student they all should learn English and also still of course preserve their own culture as well.
In general for most people not being able to read a test or English should not be excused I understand if it is math and other subjects but English is a very important subject NO MATTER WHAT and still should be tested until they succeed. Without English what more will we learn?