They Are Alive... No They Are Not!

They Alive Not! - Psychology, Special Needs, Health - Posted: 3rd May, 2006 - 8:14pm

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Dealing with pain then hope then pain...
4th Jan, 2006 - 3:18pm / Post ID: #

They Are Alive... No They Are Not!

They Are Alive... No They Are Not!

Did any of you get the news report saying that of the thirteen miners that were involved in the Virginia mining accident 12 were alive when in fact it was not so? The families considered it a miracle only to later to find out that they were dead. This thread seeks to cover the psychological effect of this rather than the accident itself. How would you feel if it happened to you, would you want vengeance against the person(s) that published false hope?

JOY TURNS TO GRIEF WITH NEWS MISSING MINERS DEAD, NOT ALIVE

Jubilation in a small West Virginia town turned to disbelief and then grief and rage with news that 11 of 12 missing miners were dead - not alive - as had originally been reported.
Ref. https://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/200...ped-060104.html





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4th Jan, 2006 - 3:34pm / Post ID: #

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I can't think of anything more horrible than being given false hope. I certainly can't blame anyone who would want revenge, I certainly would. I wonder what kind of guilt the guy who released the false information is going through.



Post Date: 5th Jan, 2006 - 12:27pm / Post ID: #

They Are Alive... No They Are Not!
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They Are Alive... No They Are Not! Health & Special Psychology

This is so horrible, it brings feelings of anger and sadness to my heart. To be told that they were alive, then have that miracle taken from you is just cruel. I have read through another story from an independent news paper, but even they have no idea how this happened. The only thing being let out is that someone made a mistake. Of course, even if they know who made the mistake, they cannot release his name, it would not be safe for him.

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=1...-name_page.html

Post Date: 5th Jan, 2006 - 1:18pm / Post ID: #

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MINE TRAGEDY: EVEN GOVERNOR SAID THE 12 WERE ALIVE

The miners relied on their training and trusted their safety equipment. But it wasn't enough. Trapped by heavy smoke that blocked their escape routes, most of the 13 miners caught in an explosion did just as they were trained, retreating deeper into the mine and hanging a curtain-like barrier to keep out toxic gases while they waited for rescue, officials said Wednesday.
Ref. deseretnews.com/dn/view/1%2C3949%2C%2C00.html

Post Date: 6th Jan, 2006 - 2:25am / Post ID: #

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It's definately heartbreaking. I was watching a special on it this morning, and they had mine workers on from other parts of the country, and they were talking about how when something like that happens, it effects coal miners all over the place. The guy was saying how he had never met these people, but just hearing about it made him cry.

It definately plays an emotional role. The pain would have been bad going through the whole situatoin thinking they were dead, and then found out that they truly had died in the accident. But I think it's worse that they went through those moments of hope and belief that they are still alive, and then the emotional fall was even higher.

6th Jan, 2006 - 4:14am / Post ID: #

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How devastating for those families! To have some hope to cling to after the grief, and then to have that ripped out from under them again. Oh, I can't imagine their pain. I pray that the families can find peace.



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6th Jan, 2006 - 11:21am / Post ID: #

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After all of that then they get such notes...

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MINER'S FINAL NOTE: 'TELL ALL I'LL SEE THEM ON THE OTHER SIDE'

"It wasn't bad just went to sleep."
Ref. cnn.com


Now, based on the psychological play, we have to wonder if this find is not another misleading hoax to either help people forget or give comfort to those that mourn.



3rd May, 2006 - 8:14pm / Post ID: #

They Alive... They Not! Psychology Special & Health

Here is a story of possibly THE mine official who incorrectly stated the miners were alive and his attempts to explain why he did so. To be honest, in the heat of the moment, who knows what one person would or could say. Maybe he thought by saying they were alive, people would work faster, etc. Who knows? I feel sorry for this guy, if in fact he is to blame for the slip up.

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A state mining inspector revealed Wednesday that his shouting during the Sago Mine disaster might have led the relatives of 12 dead miners to believe the men had been found alive.

"I don't recall the exact words I used," said Bill Tucker, an assistant inspector at large for the state Office of Miners' Health Safety and Training. "I was just screaming out for help."

"I think I may have said 'They're alive!"'


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