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Post Date: 19th Feb, 2006 - 5:35pm / Post ID: #

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16 DIE IN CARTOON PROTESTS IN NIGERIA

Sixteen people were killed and 11 churches were burned Saturday in Nigeria as part of the continuing violence over cartoons of Islam's Prophet Mohammed.
Ref. https://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/africa/02/18...ndup/index.html

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19th Feb, 2006 - 5:39pm / Post ID: #

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This has passed the stage of ridiculous and has now become an excuse for random or maybe it is specific acts of violence all over the world. Islamists are behind this... what does the Quran say about forgive? Anything? Or is all about retribution? What is more, I wonder if the Prophet Muhammad came back today if he would condone all of this violence.



Post Date: 21st Feb, 2006 - 8:22am / Post ID: #

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I have to admit that I reacted harshly to this behavior without giving it allot of thought. I have had the chance to look at it and have a better perspective on it. I still believe that rioting and killing is wrong to do on account of an insult of any nature, but I now understand the anger driving it.

To the Muslims, this is the equivalent of setting up an idol in the Holy of Holies in the Jewish Temple. This is the equivalent of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit to Christians, or dressing up Jesus or Joseph Smith like a clown and parading its picture all over the world. Depicting the Prophet Mohammed in any fashion is wrong. He himself set up this statute in order to ensure that no graven image would be worshipped. He feared himself being worshipped as a God (as he felt had happened to Jesus) and banned any likeness of himself being made. This, in Islam, is a holy righteous commandment.

To see a depiction, none the less a cartoon mockery, of the Prophet was not just perceived as a spit in the eye, but a challenge and attack on the Muslim faith. When supposed christian values are "challenged" in the USA, there are calls to rise up and vote and stop the destruction of our values, and often times protests happen as well. Sometimes these protests get out of hand. Not like the Muslim protests overseas I admit. But we get up in arms too about it, when its not a direct insult and attack on our primary religious figures.

Fact is, I could see something similar happening in the States with other religions too if it was bad enough. When people think they are being attacked, and by attacking Islam, you are attacking muslims, they make no distinction, they will defend and yes even retaliate in turn. The Muslims are reacting in a fashion that everyone should have expected, in a way the indicates their culture in the Mid-East. To us this is lunacy, to them, its worth it and expected of them to stand up, even violently, and defend their beliefs.

I believe in this mans right to draw this cartoon, and or other drawings. But just because he could, doesn't mean he should. Freedom also means the freedom to abstain if its not such a good idea. However, that man didn't see this coming. Why? Because he didn't understand the culture he was writing about. This situation shows us the huge gap between cultures and the complete lack of understanding between cultures, because the Muslims don't understand how we can have a country that allows such open blasphemy in the world, no matter were it is. This truly shows the divide the separates our cultures, and why there will never be peace, without understanding first.

1st Mar, 2006 - 10:37pm / Post ID: #

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John Caffery called it an act of cowardice by U.S. newspapers for not publishing controversial Muslim-based cartoons, so the local resident decided to take matters into his own hands.

On the corner of Daisy and Norwood drives, Caffery erected a large sign Sunday afternoon with one of the cartoons. It also carries a message about the subsequent rioting throughout the world caused by the publishing of the cartoons in a Danish newspaper.


https://www.southeasttexaslive.com/site/new...id=512588&rfi=6

What is even more interesting in this article is the statement that was made by the local Imam in the resident's area. He did not rant or ask for attacks on the man, or the cartoonist who drew the caricatures. He simply stated everyone is entitled their rights.

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Imam Muhammad Humayun, a spiritual leader of Beaumont's Islamic Society of the Triplex, said the worldwide protestors, the cartoonist who created the images and the newspapers who published the drawings all have their rights.
But publishing the cartoons was irresponsible, he said. So, too, is putting up upsetting images, and therefore he didn't even discuss the cartoons in religious meetings, he said.

"Freedom doesn't mean you do what you want," Humayun said. "What is the point of putting up something that hurts?"


This comes back to what Konquererz talked about in the differences between the US culture and elsewhere. I hadn't heard about this story until today, and I am not sure what the Islamic population is like where this man lives, but it seems he hasn't been harassed by anyone, even though they may not like it. I am not trying to say it is in any way the same as publishing in a newspaper, but its proves an interesting point.



2nd Mar, 2006 - 2:19pm / Post ID: #

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QUOTE (konquererz @ 21-Feb 06, 3:22 AM)
To the Muslims, this is the equivalent of setting up an idol in the Holy of Holies in the Jewish Temple. This is the equivalent of blasphemy of the Holy Spirit to Christians, or dressing up Jesus or Joseph Smith like a clown and parading its picture all over the world.

The thing is, Muslims do these things ALL THE TIME! The actually DO attack Judaism and Christianity, on a regular basis. The thing is, they not only do it with cartoons and speeches, but with actual violence! It is a true double standard, and it sickens me when so many in the West excuse and apologize for the Muslims who are performing these despicable acts.

Are you aware that in Indonesia, the Philippines, India, Pakistan and many other places around the world, that Christian women are being raped, then taken into slavery and forced into Islam? Are you aware that if any Christian (or Jew) dares to report a crime against them perpetrated by a Muslim in these countries, that the Christian is punished? After all, it is completely against Sharia law for an infidel to accuse or testify against any Muslim for any crime.

Did you know that over 70% of Muslims who were polled recently, in several different countries, believe that Sharia law should be the FOUNDATION of legislation throughout the world?

So, it is wrong for a Westerner to draw cartoons about Muhammad, but it is perfectly fine for Syrian and Egyptian newspapers to perpetuate the Damascus Blood Libel and the hoax about the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. At least that is what I understand from all of the apologists for the Muslims who are rioting and killing.

Oh, yes, we mustn't forget how many people, especially in the Mainstream Media (MSM) ALWAYS turn it around and blame the victims of Muslim violence. After all, the Muslims can't help the fact that they become so enraged that they must kill and destroy, right? That is exactly what some of the posts I have read on this topic have indicated. "Oh, it was wrong of the Muslims to riot and burn and kill, but if only those Danish newspapers had acted responsibly and NOT published the cartoons, none of this would have happened!" Blame the victim for doing what they are supposed to be doing, and what their laws guarantee they are allowed to do. Only put a little bit of the blame on the perpetrators of the horrible acts.



1st Apr, 2006 - 6:46pm / Post ID: #

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Here is another twist.

https://www.metimes.com/articles/normal.php...31-084337-4435r
Muslim gang forces Paris cafe to censor cartoon show

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Some 50 drawings by well-known French cartoonists were installed in the Mer a Boire cafe in the working-class Belleville neighborhood of northeast Paris, as part of an avowedly atheist show entitled, "Neither god nor god".

The collection targeted all religions - including Islam - but there were no representations of the Prophet Mohammed such as sparked the recent crisis between the West and the Islamic world, according to Marianne who is one of the cafe's three owners.

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One of the cartoons that aroused the wrath of the youths was a bar scene, in which the barman offers a drink to an obviously inebriated man who says "God is great". The caption is: "The sixth pillar of Islam. The bar pillar." In France a "bar pillar" is a barfly or drunk.


Islamism, the political attempt to force the entire world to abide by Muslim laws, is alive and well in France. Not only among the organized religious organizations, but even among the little boys in the street. At least not all French people desire to be dhimmis within their own country.



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3rd Apr, 2006 - 9:54pm / Post ID: #

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The controversy just goes on, and on, and on....

https://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page...T20060403a.html

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New York University administrators on March 29 banned the display of cartoons satirizing the Muslim prophet Mohammed but did so during a forum held to discuss the controversy over the cartoons. As a result, the president of a free speech advocacy group calls the decision to censor the cartoons "one of the most frustrating" arguments he has ever heard.


So, the Muslim "extremists" have won. French cafes, US universities, mainstream media outlets (Fox, ABCNBCBSCNNetcetcetc) all refuse to show the cartoon. They are scared to death (rightfully).

This is what I see as modern dhimmitude. The willingness to fold. Except for the French cafe - complete cowardice. At least the French cafe TRIED to stand up to the extortion.

Reconcile Edited: Nighthawk on 3rd Apr, 2006 - 9:55pm



Post Date: 3rd Jun, 2006 - 5:20am / Post ID: #

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I'm not sure what purpose does those cartoons actually served and reprinting it is even worse, that doesn't show that these news papers respect this freedom, it shows how ignorant they are.

I think that there is a difference between freedom of speech and a freedom to insult and the timing of these cartoons was really bad. If you look at the Holland, France and some other countries they out-lawed the Hijab (head scarf) which is the least type of freedom for a person to choose what to wear.

A lot of people after the 9/11, London bombing and Madrid consider muslims as terrorists and it took a lot of work from the muslim communities their to undo the effects of it.

Let me ask you this question: (I don't mean to offend anyone I'm just giving an example)

If the cartoons was made about jews for instance what would have happened?
Those same countries that reprinted the cartoons would have sent those journalists to jail.

Just to point out something most of the Imams don't encourage violent protests it is just a few and unfortunately those are the ones that stick out or the news agencies concentrate on.

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