Is The Serpent Satan?

Is Serpent Satan - Mormon Doctrine Studies - Posted: 18th Jun, 2006 - 3:08pm

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16th Feb, 2006 - 8:42pm / Post ID: #

Is The Serpent Satan?

I was reading Moses and I got stuck in this verse. Maybe some of you can share your views about it:

Moses 4:6

"And Satan put in into the heart of the serpent, (for he had drawn away many after him,)
and he sought also to beguile Eve, for he knew not the mind of God, wherefore he sought to destroy the world"


We are talking about a beast being drawn away after Satan during the pre-existence? Are we talking about a normal spirit who was not courageous enough and end up being a beast when he/she came to this earth? What are your thoughts?



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18th Feb, 2006 - 8:26pm / Post ID: #

Satan Serpent Is

I have always read over this verse quickly (a bad thing to do), but it is good that you picked up on it. My understanding is the serpent and Satan are one and the same person and the use of the word 'serpent' is symbolic. However, in this verse it does not seem to be the case, I would like insight into it also.



24th Feb, 2006 - 3:50am / Post ID: #

Is The Serpent Satan? Studies Doctrine Mormon

The scriptural word serpent indicates a winged being, an angel of light. Indeed, the serpent who beguiled Eve was not a snake as such, but someone convincingly authoritative, perhaps nigh unto an angel of light. Whether that messenger of falsehood was the devil himself or one of his followers, the influence of that spirit once known as Lucifer was being directly manifest.



25th Feb, 2006 - 8:50pm / Post ID: #

Satan Serpent Is

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The scriptural word serpent indicates a winged being, an angel of light


Any scriptural support for that statement?



26th Feb, 2006 - 7:20am / Post ID: #

Satan Serpent Is

The following site (not an LDS one) has some very interesting points on the subject:

https://www.childrenofyahweh.com/Other%20Re...the_serpent.htm

From the Institute Student Manual for the Old Testament:

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In the Genesis account the serpent speaks to Eve and tempts her to partake of the fruit. The more complete account in the book of Moses points out that Satan is the one speaking, although he does so through the serpent (see Moses 4:6-7). Also, Satan is symbolized elsewhere by the image of a serpent (see Revelation 12:9; D&C 76:28; 84:72; 88:110).


For me, the bottom line is this: Satan, throughout scripture and throughout history, has been attempting to impersonate Christ. It is not coincidental that the Hebrew word for serpent used in Genesis 3, transliterated as "nachash," means to hiss or to whisper. Doesn't the devil whisper subtly, trying to impersonate the true whisperings of the Holy Ghost? In his interactions with Moses, he appeared as an angel of light. Satan is good at what he does, and he knows that the way to catch those of us who initially desire to follow righteousness is to pose as righteous, or in other words to impersonate as best he can the glory of Christ. However, he cannot bring the fruits of the Spirit, and he has no true glory, and thus we know what is his and what is Christ's.



Post Date: 31st Mar, 2006 - 10:20pm / Post ID: #

Is The Serpent Satan?
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Is The Serpent Satan?

Quetzalcoatl (Jesus) was often represented in art work by a Serpent. Could not Satan have impersonated the 'serpent' to convince Eve....

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Post Date: 18th Jun, 2006 - 9:43am / Post ID: #

Is The Serpent Satan?
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Is Serpent Satan

Jesus compares himself to the brazen serpent of Moses. Jesus and Satan also share the venus star as a symbol. This probably is a case of Satan imitating Jesus.

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Fixed spelling and incomplete words. Please take the time to run the spell check and review your writing to verify that you are using the correct words. Santa is NOT the same as Satan.

Also, please use whole words. Prob does NOT stand for probably in this forum. It just shows that you are too lazy to write properly.


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Post Date: 18th Jun, 2006 - 3:08pm / Post ID: #

Is The Serpent Satan?
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LDS_forever said

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We are talking about a beast being drawn away after Satan during the pre-existence? Are we talking about a normal spirit who was not courageous enough and end up being a beast when he/she came to this earth? What are your thoughts?


I do not think we're talking about a beast during the pre-existence? Now, the beast mentioned in verse 5 is simply because the Lord compares the serpent with any beast he has created. The serpent being more subtle than any of them (beasts).

If we look at verse 4 we read:
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And he became Satan, yea, even the devil, the father of all lies, to deceive and to blind men, and to lead them captive at his will, even as many as would not hearken unto my voice.


This is the will of the devil and this is what he put into the heart of the serpent, meaning acting with the attributes of a serpent in order to deceive and to blind us. In verse 6 Satan and the serpent is the same, but to help us understand how Satan will deceive us (namely by impersonating a serpent). A serpent has some interesting attributes as mentioned by the Lord in verse 5.

In other instances we have seen that a serpent can represent something good. It sometimes even is a symbol of Christ. This also explains how Satan could manage to deceive Eve.

All of which is my personal opinions of course....

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