*moves his hypothetical situations away from hunger*
I asked about specifications because I am not sure I understand the expression.
Are you asking about situations when any means are good to reach a certain goal? It is as I understood it, but I am not sure.
Well, since you posted it in a Romance thread (thanks JB, for mentioning it, I didn't pay attention to it), I get it that you are more interested in romance stuff? Great deduction, isn't it?
Desperate love (romance all right here) -
Person A is totally crazy about person B who:
1) doesn't answer because either is honestly unaware of it or notices but ignores
2) answers but not the way person A would want her to
3) has her strong return feeling to person A - hates him to the freaking bones (most probably after a recent break up initiated by her. Oh yes)
What makes a man desperate?
In all three cases, the fact he doesn't get what he truly wants.
If a person is in love, the thing he wants most of all is love in return.
Important! Love in return from the object of his feelings. Not like A is dying for B, B has a strong crush on C, C is dreaming about D and D would kill to date A. The situaiton is entertaining, but over used by Brazilian soap operas.
When a person does not get a return feeling, the reaction depends on his personality, self-esteem and colour of his socks and may vary from slight romantic depression with spending nights in sweet weeping into the pillow (or her picture if he was lucky to get any) to getting totaly mad and obsessed with the only goal to make her love him back. The latter variant sometimes turns into a self-goal, when hurt pride pops on the first place.
The hardest thing, in my opinion, is a broken relationship when one of the parties can't move on.
It is relatively easy to switch to another person in the very beginning of the relationship, when it's clear she is not interested in you.
More or less easy to initiate the break up.
But to be kicked out, and especially when you never planned neither wanted it, is very hard.
The combination of strong love you still have + crazy regret she doesn't have it any longer + hurt pride + lost hopes + memories of what you had can be deadly.
What will a man do when he is desperate?
To say it again, I only can say for myself. Close to everything. And I am not saying it is good.
About goals and means...
Well, in robbing the bank, it might work, I guess. When you leave the place with a couple of sacks stuffed with money, does it matter so much how you got them.
In relationship, unfortunately, no.
If somehow, with threats or bribing you managed to get her be with you, if you read boredom, hatred or indifference in her eyes, it won't make either of you happy.
But if you get her to be with you, and she is happy - I'd say this end worth any means, even unfair. You'd work off your crimes before her later, you'll prove it was worth it. I think it's true feeling that matters.
End of the essay.
Edited: Klausse on 27th Feb, 2006 - 6:02pm
Marve, I have to admit that your more specific explanation as to why you have started this thread in the Romance Board has left me more lost than the original. I will take it that this is something to do with language and that Klausse is fulfilling your intellectual need and leave it at that.
I would have to agree with JB and say that no further answers will be as far in depth as Klausse's and I will not even attempt to give you an answer anywhere near as good as his but I will still try.
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