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20th Feb, 2008 - 3:33pm / Post ID: #

Mousetrails - The First Holy War - Page 17

All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

I was re-reading a passage while writing the chapter on, "WOMEN" when I came across a passage about flight I had somehow missed.

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"There is no God like the God of the darling, who RIDES THE HEAVENS IN HIS POWER, and RIDES THE SKIES IN HIS MAJESTY. (Deuteronomy 33:26)

If there was even a hint of doubt in my mind before I read that passage, there was certainly none after reading it. The God of the Jews flew!

As you will see in the next verse, God didn't always fly on the power of fire and make mountains tremble. Sometimes, He was much quieter.
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And when thou shalt hear the sound of one going in the tops of the pear trees, then shalt thou join the battle: for then will the Lord go out before thy face to strike the army of the Philistines. (2 Kings 5:24)

The battle was to be near some pear trees. How would you make a noise in the tops of the pear trees, climb from tree to tree or fly?

Read this book like any history book. ... and flew: and slid upon the wings of the wind. This can only mean one thing, the god of the Jews flew in machines described by ancient man as a fiery chariot. His sounds were described as thunder, trumpet blast, and a whistling of a gentle air, but He flew!
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And he rode upon the cherubim, and flew: and slid upon the wings of the wind. (2 Kings 22:11)

God described what sound he made when he flew once before. ...the sound of one going in the tops of the pear trees. Another sound is described in this passage that is also a very quiet sound.
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And he said to him: "Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the Lord; and behold the Lord passeth, and a great and strong wind before the Lord overthrowing the mountains, and breaking the rocks in pieces; the Lord is not in the wind, and after the wind an earthquake; and the Lord is not in the earthquake. And after the earthquake a fire; the Lord is not in the fire, and after the fire A WHISTLING OF A GENTLE AIR.." And when Elias heard it, he covered his face with
with his mantle, and coming forth stood at the entering in of the cave, and behold a voice unto him saying: What dost thou here, Elias? (3 Kings 19:11)

...a whistling of a gentle air and ...the sound of one going in the tops of the pear trees are the gentle, quiet, sounds I would somehow expect from a god.





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2nd Mar, 2008 - 2:24am / Post ID: #

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All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

Can you imagine in your wildest dreams, walking with your father, and seeing him taken into the sky when flying chariots were not that common?

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And as they went on, walking and talking together, behold a fiery chariot and fiery horses parted them both asunder: and Elias went up by a whirlwind into heaven. And Eliseus saw him, and cried: "My father, my father, the chariot of Israel, and the driver thereof." And he saw him no more. And he took his own garments, and rent them into two pieces. (4 Kings 2:11)

If Elias and Eliseus were talking, they were close together, but there is nothing in the story about Eliseus being burned. Fiery chariot? Horses in a whirlwind? Flying machines would be hard to describe if you"ve
never seen one before.

Flying is so commonplace now, we do it almost without thought. We buy a ticket and fly to far off places, 37,000 feet above the earth, at 550 mile per hour. As we fly at the edge of space, the temperature outside is 51 degrees below freezing. In warmed, pressurized comfort, we watch motion pictures, listen to any of several channels of music, read, eat, and sleep.

We see exotic lands, visit relatives, or do our business, leaving and arriving half way around the world the same day. Many people own small private planes and do all the same things on a smaller scale, covering in a day what would have taken the Israelites months. Just three generations ago, it was thought if a racing automobile traveled faster than 60 miles per hour it would take your breath away, and you would die! Is it any wonder that four thousand years ago, any human that could fly was thought to be a god? So for 1575 years Israel feared a flying man. He said He was a God, and they stand in awe of Him to this day!



11th Mar, 2008 - 6:46am / Post ID: #

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All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

REASONING WITH GOD
To the Jews, their God had mighty powers, and most of the time used them in anger with spiteful vengeance. But as you will soon find, He could be reasoned with if you were polite, very careful, complimentary, and made a good point. In the golden calf incedent at Sinai, God looked down and told Moses,

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"I see how stiffnecked this people is. Let me alone, then, that my wrath may blaze up against them to consume them. Then I will make you a great nation."

At this point in time, Israel's God had every intention of exterminating over three million people and starting all over again with Moses alone.

Moses was the first man to ask God why about anything.
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But Moses implored the Lord his God saying,"Why O Lord should your wrath blaze up against your own people, whom you brought out of the land of Egypt with such great power and so strong a hand? Why should the Egyptians say,"With evil intent he brought them out, that he might kill them in the mountains and exterminate them from the face of the earth? Let your blazing wrath die down; relent in punishing your people." So the lord relented in the punishment he had threatened to inflict on his people. (Exodus 32:11)

Now, I have a question. Why, in your wildest imagination, would the God of over
three million Jewish people give one single beca for the thoughts of the Egyptians? Why would what the Egyptians might say effect the thinking of so great a God?

After the golden calf incedent, Moses told Israel they had committed a grave sin. Then he went back to God for forgiveness. He pleaded with God, "If you would only forgive their sin!" Then in frustration Moses did a strange thing for the first time. He told God what to do. "If you will not, then strike me out of the book that
you have written."
God told Moses he would only punish those that had sinned. Then, for the first time, God told Moses something very different and out of character. God had ALWAYS led His people, but this time he told Moses, "Now, go and lead the people whither I have told you. MY ANGEL WILL GO BEFORE YOU." He was going to send an angel to do what he had always done himself! Why
the sudden change? Did the Jews make Him that angry?

Then Moses questioned God.
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"You indeed, are telling me to lead this people on; but you have not let me know whom you will send with me. Yet you have said, `You are my intimate friend," and also, `You have found favor with me." Now, if I have found favor with you, do let me know your ways so that, in knowing you, I may continue to find favor with you. Then, too, this nation is, after all, your own people." (Exodus 33:13)


"I myself," the Lord answered, "will go along to give you rest."
Moses replied,
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"If you are not going yourself, do not make us go up from here." (Exodus 33:12)

Again Moses set the boundaries. He told God, "do not make us go up from here." When Moses heard the people crying at the entrance to their tents because they had no meat or vegetables, ...so that the Lord became very angry, he was grieved. When he went to God this time he didn't waste any words. He was so tired and frustrated he said exactly what he had on his mind, not caring at all what the consequence might be. "Why do you treat your servant so badly?"



15th Mar, 2008 - 7:37am / Post ID: #

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All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

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Moses asked the Lord. "Why are you so displeased with me that you burden me with all this people? Was it I who conceived all these people? or was it I who gave them birth, that you tell me to carry them to my bosom, like a foster father carrying an infant, to the land you have promised under oath to their fathers? Where can I get meat to give all these people? For they are crying to me, Give us meat for our food. I cannot carry all this people by myself, for they are too heavy for me. If this is the way you will deal with me, then please DO ME THE FAVOR OF KILLING ME at once, so that I need no longer face this distress." (Numbers 11:11)

But even when God threatened Israel with meat to eat for a whole month,
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Until it comes out of your very nostrils and becomes loathsome to you." Moses didn't believe it. He said, "The people around me include six hundred thousand soldiers; yet you say, "I will give them meat to eat for a whole month." Can enough sheep and cattle be slaughtered for them? If all the fish of the sea were caught for them, would they have enough?"

If this insolence had come from anyone else, they would probably have died instantly, but Moses had had enough and spoke his mind.
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"DO ME THE FAVOR OF KILLING ME,"

is a pretty strong statement to make to this God. But Moses lived to carry the burden all the way, and look across the Jordan River and see Chanaan on the other side.

When the scouts came back from Chanaan and said the people were fierce, and the towns were fortified, the people wailed and said,
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"Would that we had died in the land of Egypt, or that here in the desert we were dead!"

Of course, God heard all this and asked Moses ...
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"how long will this people spurn me? How long will they refuse to believe in me, despite all the signs I have performed among them?"




20th Mar, 2008 - 6:30am / Post ID: #

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All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

Israel followed God out of fear. But every time He pushed them too far, they rebelled. And once again, good old faithful Moses stepped in between God, and man, and brought up the Egyptians. Give Moses his due, he was a silver tongued fox, and knew all the right buttons to push.

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But Moses said to the Lord:  "Are the Egyptians to hear of this? For by your power you brought out this people from among them. And are they to tell of it to the inhabitants of this land? If now you slay this whole people, the nations who have heard such reports of you will say, "The Lord was not able to bring this people into the land he swore to give them; that is why he slaughtered them in the desert."

God told Moses at least twice to stand back while He exterminated the Jews, then promised Moses he would become a great nation in their place. What a crossroad, what a decision Moses had to make. But instead of taking the easy way, he stood toe-to-toe with God, and God backed down!

Time and again Israel got themselves in trouble and cried to their God for help. God reminded them when He gave them the land;
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..."you shall not venerate the gods of the Amorrites in whose land you are dwelling. But you did not obey me." (Judges 6:10)

But as usual, he gave in and picked them another leader. At first God's new leader was not willing and asked,
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"If the Lord is with us, why has all this happened to us?"


But I"m getting ahead of the story. The Bible tells it better than I.
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Then the angel of the Lord came and sat under the terebinth in Ephra that belonged to Joas the Abiezerite. While his son Gedeon was beating out wheat in the wine press to save it from the Madianites, the angel of the Lord appeared to him and said, "The Lord is with you, O champion!"

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"My Lord," Gedeon said to him,"if the Lord is with us, why has all this happened to us? Where are his wondrous deeds of which our fathers told us when they aid, "Did not the Lord bring us up from Egypt?" For now the Lord has abandoned us and has delivered us into the power of Madian." (Judges 6:11)


Gedeon still wasn't sure he had been picked to be a leader, so he asked,
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"Please, my lord, how can I save Israel? My family is the meanest in Manasse, and I am the most insignificant in my father's house."

And the God that every Christian church today describes as a kind and loving God said,
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"I shall be with you, and you will CUT DOWN MADIAN TO THE LAST MAN."

And the comment I get from the fanatic devout, "He could cut them down if He wanted. They were His!" 135,000 soldiers, Zebee and Salmana, and half a city were His. In Bible times a city was about 12,000 people. A very conservative estimate of the men in the city would be 4,000 men. So, because they were His, it was alright for the God of the Jews to cut down 139,002 male human beings.



24th Mar, 2008 - 6:39am / Post ID: #

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First Moses, then Gedeon, argued and bartered with God. These two were successful and got what they wanted. He could be reasoned with, but it was the exception, not the rule



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24th Mar, 2008 - 6:51am / Post ID: #

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All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

SORCERY
Sorcery? Magic? In the Christian Bible? In the Christian Bible! I was surprised too, but sorcery and magic come to light several times, and some of it right under God's nose. Just for fun this time, let's go to the dictionary first.
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sor-cery The use of power gained from the assistance or control of evil spirits.
Webster's Dictionary
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magic 1: of or relating to magic 2:a having seemingly supernatural qualities or powers
Webster's Dictionary
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In the story of the plagues in Egypt, God told Moses to tell Pharaoh that the second plague would be frogs.

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They will come up into your palace and into your bedroom and onto your bed, into the houses of your servants, too, and your subjects, even into your oven and your kneading bowls. So Aaron stretched out his hand over the waters of Egypt, and the frogs came up and covered the land of Egypt. But the MAGICIANS DID THE SAME BY THEIR MAGIC ARTS. They, too, made frogs over-run the land of Egypt. (Exodus 7:28)

Pharoah's plain, every day, magicians made frogs come from everywhere, just like Aaron. Magic? Who was the magician, God, or the Pharaoh's magicians, or both? Could it be the frogs were a natural phenomena, like an over population of locust, that they both took advantage of?

In a section of the Bible called Social Laws, God laid down several very matter-of-fact rules. One tells what a man is supposed to do if he seduces a virgin. Another states,
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"Anyone who lies with an animal shall be put to death." (Exodus 22:18)

Others instructed the Jews on sacrificing to another god, how to treat aliens, and the rules for loaning money. But one, among the many rules handed down, was very simple and short.
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"You shall not let a sorceress live." (Exodus 22:17)

The passage leaves no doubt in my mind that there were sorcerers, and exactly what God wanted done with them. If this all seeing, all knowing God, had been no more concerned about the powers of sorcerers than I am today, I doubt he would
have ordered them put to death. But He was concerned, and He did order them put to death. Maybe He thought a sorceress really did have power.

Today we know mediums and fortune tellers to be hog-wash, a waste of money and time. They are a powerless joke, but God didn't think so. He made sure they were afraid to practice their trade, at least in public.
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"A man or a woman who acts as a medium or fortuneteller shall be put to death by stoning; they have no one but themselves to blame for their death." (Leviticus 20:27)

Being a medium or a fortune teller in those days was serious business. Isn't it interesting that such a powerful God was afraid to have them around? But why? Did He believe they had the power to do what they professed?



31st Mar, 2008 - 7:04am / Post ID: #

Mousetrails The Holy War The Bible Revealed - Page 17

All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

Next the Bible gives us an example of a talking animal.

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Now the Lord opened the mouth of the donkey, and she asked Balaam, "What have I done to you that you should beat me these three times?" (Numbers 22:28)

Talking animals? That's right, in the Bible, a talking donkey!

David and the Philistines came to do battle with Saul and Israel, and Saul was very fearful because God had abandoned him, and Samuel was dead. He had, ...
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rooted out the magicians and soothsayers from the land.

There was no one left for him to turn to for advice, or to foretell the future.
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And Saul said to his servants; "Seek me a woman that has a divining spirit, and I will go to her, and inquire by her." And his servants said to him: "There is a woman that hath a divining spirit at Endor." Then he disguised himself, and put on other clothes, and he went, and two men with him, and they came to the woman by night, and he said to her: "Devine to me by thy divining spirit, and bring me up him whom I shall tell thee." And the woman said to him: "Whom shall I bring up to thee?" And he said: "Bring me up Samuel." And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried out with a loud voice, and said to Saul: "Why hast thou deceived me? For thou art Saul." (1 Kings 28:7)

In the Bible that people read and base their religion on today, a female sooth-sayer with a divining spirit was able to bring Samuel back from the dead so he could talk to Saul! Soothsayers? People returning from the dead? That's right! You can find it all in The Old Testament.

Here I have an example of magic that helped with every day problems. A group of men were cutting wood for a dwelling, when a loose iron axe head flew off the handle and into the water. Iron must have been precious, because the man cried out, and said,
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"Alas, alas, alas, my lord, for this same was borrowed." And the man of god said: "Where did it fall?" And he showed him the place. Then he cut off a piece of wood, and cast it in thither: and the iron swam. And he said: "Take it up." And he put out his hand and took it." (4 Kings 6:6)

God performed several tricks like the plagues in Egypt, Moses striking water with his rod, manna from the skies, and many more, but I don't remember my Sunday school teacher dealing with floating iron axe heads.




 
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