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3rd Apr, 2008 - 5:50am / Post ID: #

Mousetrails - The First Holy War - Page 18

All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

Also in (4 Kings) is another very short story of a dead man returning to life. All they had to do was throw the dead man on the bones of the prophet.

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And some that were burying a man, saw the rovers, and cast the body into the sepulchre of Eliseus. And when it had touched the bones of Eliseus, the man came to life, and stood upon his feet. (4 Kings 13:21)

In a book that has a great deal of influence on how millions of people live their lives today, the Bible deals with magicians, sorcerers, mediums, fortune tellers, divining spirits, talking animals, and the dead returning to life, as common every-day occurrences. Intelligent people today all know these things to be so much mumbojumbo, yet these same intelligent people believe other parts of the Bible to be truth beyond question. Sorry, it's one book. Believe it all, or not at all!

PASSAGES OF GENERAL
INTEREST

Never having read the Old Testament cover to cover, word for word, I had only heard of one occasion when the waters of a river, or a sea, parted to let man walk across. The story of Moses parting the waters of the Red Sea is the one taught in Sunday school, and is probably most well known. I found not one, but four times,
when God or man commanded, water behaved as if it understood the command.
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Then Moses stretched out his hand over the sea, and the Lord swept the sea with a strong east wind throughout the night and so turned it into dry land. (Exodus 14:21)

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No sooner had the priestly bearers of the Ark waded into the waters at the edge of the Jordan, than the waters flowing from upstream halted, backing up in a solid mass; while those flowing downstream disappeared entirely. (Josue 3:15)

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And Elias took his mantle and folded it together, and struck the waters, and they were divided hither and thither, and they both passed over on dry ground. (4 Kings 2:8)

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And he struck the waters, and they were divided, hither and thither, and Eliseus passed over. (4 Kings 2:14)

There is no historical account of this happening before the Old Testament was written. And history hasn't recorded such a thing since, but according to the Bible, it happened not once, but four times in the Old Testament.



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3rd Apr, 2008 - 9:51pm / Post ID: #

War Holy The Mousetrails

Is this book for one particular group like the Catholics or for everyone?



4th Apr, 2008 - 1:31am / Post ID: #

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Hello Krusten. I was beginning to feel a little lonely, because no one ever seems to hit the "reply" button on this thread.
I really didn't start this thing right, because I didn't start this thread at the front of the book. So let me explain. This whole thing started when I wondered to myself, "How many humans died, directly, or indirectly, because of the God of the Jews." It took 12 years of research in my spare time (till three o'clock many mornings) to read the old testament line by line looking for the numbers. In this time I began to run across many other things I had never heard, so each time I did I would start the research all over again. When I was through I knew I had to tell anyone that would listen what I had found.

I joined a writers club and began to write. I went to work part time at age 65 to pay for the printing. All together I have 14 years of my "spare" time wrapped up in this book. It will never be a best seller, because many people, my own wife included, don't want to know what I found. It is not pointed at any one religion, just Christens in general.

I am always here to answer, or discuss, what you find in Mousetrails. I really appreciate anyone reading my work.

Mouse



5th Apr, 2008 - 4:30pm / Post ID: #

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I joined a writers club and began to write. I went to work part time at age 65 to pay for the printing.

You sound very passionate about it, especially if you joined a writers club. Did you have writing skills before this or did it come with the club. Actually, I'm interested in what you learnt at the club, can you tell me what it entailed?



6th Apr, 2008 - 11:53am / Post ID: #

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Passionate? It would be impossible to put a description of that passion into words. I had been force fed the same ideas and beliefs that every holyroller has passed down to their children for generations. Then one day I knew it was wrong. You would have a hard time understanding how hard I was driven to tell the world what I had found. Many have enjoyed the book, but there are probably more people that go glassy eyed and walk away shaking their head when I tell them what I found. I have been called names, laughed at, and a bank manager just laughed out loud when I said God ordered and ate food. He flatly stated, "God didn't eat!" I was still working on the research at the time and when I laid it out in front of him he went silent.

Writing skills? No. Thankfully I had the natural ability to tell a story, but I detested English in school. I finally saw the book in print 50 years after I graduated from high school and wished many times I had paid more attention. I had no idea how much I didn't know. Then one day I bought lunch for a news paper writer that I admired and he suggested I join Writers of Kern. Two of the most patient ladies in the world walked me through my project page by page. One was a retired English professor from the local university and the other was a woman with natural writing abilities far beyond mine. I had the pleasure of handing each of them a signed copy. The professor has moved away and Mary Lou Romagno died in 2006 of a massive brain hemorrhage. I miss them both.

What did I learn at the club? Everything I should have learned in high school plus one skill that they hammered into me. They never used the word, but I think it's known as a segway? When you are finishing the last paragraph on a subject you have to mention the next subject to lead the reader on. That was very hard for me, because I didn't see the need for a long time. If you have writing ambitions, tap into Google. Enter "writers club" and your city or state. There are lots of them out there. And keep me posted on your progress.

Mouse



10th Apr, 2008 - 5:49am / Post ID: #

Mousetrails - The First Holy War

All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

The next passage stands under it's own power. It needs no comment.

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You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; such a thing is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)

The next passage is rather mysterious. Cross breeding of different species was at that time impossible. In recent times man has cross bred beef and buffalo, donkey and horse, and maybe others I am not familiar with. But I doubt very many of the breeders knew they were sinning. Man and nature have created many hybrid plants, too numerous to mention. Almost all of them have been to man's great
advantage. So, ...two different kinds of seed in the same field was nothing to be afraid of. And man has been weaving every textile under the sun together for thousands of years, also to our great advantage. So (Leviticus 19:19) makes no sense whatever.
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Keep my statutes: do not breed any of your domestic animals with others of a different species; do not sow a field of yours with two different kinds of seed; and do not put on a garment woven with two different kinds of thread. (Leviticus 19:19)

God liked fresh fruit, fresh bread, unblemished meat, veal, salt on his cereal offering, and he wanted his food brought to him by perfect human specimens. He also provided several offering recipes.
Salt_____________________________Leviticus 2:13
Cereal __________________________Leviticus 2:4 / 14
Veal____________________________Leviticus 22:27
Bread___________________________Numbers 15:17 / 21
Meat____________________________Numbers 28:3 / 4
Here, God says it again. But it is a much stronger statement this time, and He adds consequences for the behavior.
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"If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13)


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19th Apr, 2008 - 8:04am / Post ID: #

Mousetrails The Holy War - Page 18

All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

The God of the Jews had no use for homosexuals!

Did you know God Himself believed in slavery? In the next passage He gave His people choices as to where they could buy their slaves, and how they were to be passed from father to son, so they were kept perpetually slaves.

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Slaves, male and female, you may indeed possess, provided you buy them from among the neighboring nations. You may also buy them from among the aliens who reside with you and from their children who are born and reared in your land. Such slaves you may own as chattels, and leave to your sons as their hereditary property, making them perpetual slaves. But you shall not lord it harshly over any of the Israelites, your kinsmen. (Leviticus 25:44)

God believed it was all right for one human being to own another. He took the time to make rules concerning slaves, and instruct His people how to pass them from father to son just as any other property, except of course land. He had separate rules for land.

No, I had never heard of the book in the next passage. I could not believe I had found such a passage in the Bible. For me, this one phrase tells more about the character of the God of the Jews than any other single phrase in the whole Bible. During my research, I had already become certain that God had a reason, other than land, for leading the Jews to Chanaan. He wanted the gold, silver, precious
stones, and metals found there, and he wanted the Jews to take it for Him. The land was all the Jews wanted, but he saw to it that in taking the land, He got what He wanted. During these battles must have been when these, "wars." were recorded.
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Hence it is said in the, "BOOK OF THE WARS OF THE LORD" : "Vaheb in Supha and the wadies, Arnon and the wadi gorges that reach back toward the site of the Ar and slant to the border of Moab." (Numbers 21:14)

Is the Old Testament of the Bible the "Book of the Wars of the Lord," or is there another book as yet undiscovered? Too bad, "Book of the Wars of the Lord wasn't part of the Dead Sea Scrolls.



23rd Apr, 2008 - 4:17am / Post ID: #

Mousetrails The Holy War The Bible Revealed - Page 18

All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

The God of the Jews was seen and recognized several times as a male human being, but it was important to Him that He was not thought of as just a man.

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"God is not a man that he should speak falsely, nor human, that he should change his mind. Is he one to speak and not act, to decree and not fulfil?" (Numbers 23:19)

God was a man whose sons married and had children with the daughters of man. (Genesis 6:1-4) And as for, decree and not fulfil, remember all the different leaders God promised time after time, generation after generation, that He would GIVE them a land of milk and honey, then made them fight and kill for it? And He did on more than one occasion let a male human being talk him into changing his mind. (Exodus 32:11-14) (Numbers 11:11-17) and (Numbers 14:13-20)

Before the Israelites came, the people dwelling in Chanaan lived peaceful lives.
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So the five men ( Israelites ) went on and came to Lias. They saw that the people dwelling there LIVED SECURELY after the manner of the Sidonians, QUIET AND TRUSTING, with no lack of any natural resources. When they returned, they told the truth. Do not be slothful about beginning your expedition to possess the land. Those against whom you go are a TRUSTING PEOPLE, and the land is ample. GOD has indeed given it into your power: a place where no natural resource is lacking. ( Judges 18:7)

So God ordered the Jews across the Jordan river with orders to take the land and kill everyone living there except the virgins, then bring him the gold, silver, bronze, iron, and the virgins. That day began a battle of hatred, and killing, and greed, that is being fought around the world 4000 years later. Today instead of swords and shields, suicide bombers blow up busses and crash airliners into tall buildings. They will continue to fight until one group of Noe's descendants manages
to annihilate the other. How sad!

The following passage is where I learned what number to use when there was no number given for the men who were killed in battle.
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So the Philistines fought, and Israel was overthrown, and every man fled to his own dwelling: and there was an exceeding great slaughter; for there fell of Israel thirty thousand footmen. (1 Kings 4:10)

So, an exceeding great slaughter equals at least 30,000 humans.

Since my Sunday school days, I had always imagined this man to be a giant like the fabled Paul Bunyan. He wasn't really a giant, but I"m sure he must have looked like one to David.
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And there went out a man base born from the camp of the Philistines named Goliath, of Geth, whose height was six cubits and a span. (1 Kings 17:4)

Six cubits and a span would be somewhere between nine and one half to eleven feet tall.

In the next passage the word, " weary" caught my eye. God created this nation of over three million people. He ripped them out of Egypt, and although they were slaves there, there were times when they would have gladly returned. He moved them across a desert without thinking in advance of food and water. I went back
to the, "PROMISES" section of my research and put together a synopsis of the things he told Israel's leaders. The next paragraph is that synopsis.
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I will establish my covenant between you and me and your descendants after you throughout their generations, as a perpetual covenant, that I may be a God to you and to your descendants after you. All the land of Chanaan I will GIVE to you and your posterity as a perpetual possession forever. I am GIVING it to you AS YOUR OWN. I will fulfill the oath which I swore to your father Abraham. In you and in your descendants, all the nations of the earth shall be blessed. I will be with you and protect you wherever you go. I will bring you back to this land; indeed I will not forsake you till I fulfill my promise."

The next passage clearly indicates that He did get, "weary" of His creation and forget all his, "perpetual" promises and HE FORSOOK His beloved ISRAEL.
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In those days the Lord began to be weary of Israel; and Hazael ravaged them in all the coasts of Israel. (4 Kings 10:32)





 
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