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24th Apr, 2008 - 6:09am / Post ID: #

Mousetrails - The First Holy War - Page 19

All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

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King Amasias obviously followed the book of the law of Moses. He had nothing else to learn from. And when he had possession of the kingdom, he put his servants to death that had slain the king his father. But the children of the murderers he did not put to death, according to that which is written in the book of the law of Moses, wherein the Lord commanded, saying: The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, NEITHER SHALL THE CHILDREN BE PUT TO DEATH FOR THE FATHERS, but every man shall die for his own sins. (4 Kings 14:5)

But had Amasias been able to go back in history to the book of Exodus, he would have found God had a much different attitude.
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Thus the Lord passed before him and cried out,"The Lord, The Lord, a merciful and gracious God, slow to anger and rich in kindness and fidelity, continuing his kindness and for a thousand generations, and forgiving wickedness and crime and sin; yet not declaring the guilty guiltless, BUT PUNISHING CHILDREN AND GRANDCHILDREN TO THE THIRD AND FOURTH GENERATION FOR THEIR FATHERS" WICKEDNESS!" (Exodus 34:6)


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One day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, Satan also came among them. (Job 1:6)

What are we supposed to believe here? Did Satan come into God's presence
anytime he wanted to, or did he just happen to tag along with the sons of God one day to see what God had on his mind? But there is another point of interest here. I believe this is only the second time the sons of God are mentioned in the Bible. The first time (Genesis 6:1) they were mentioned, they were taking wives for themselves from the daughters of man, as many as they wished.



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26th Apr, 2008 - 7:08am / Post ID: #

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During God's conversation with Satan, God pointed out Job as one of His best followers. And when Satan told God it was only because of all Job's God given possessions, God gave Job to Satan to do with as he pleased!

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A messenger came to Job and said, "The oxen were plowing and the asses grazing beside them, and the Sabeans carried them off in a raid. They put the herdsmen to the sword, and I alone have escaped to tell you." While he was yet speaking, another came and said, "Lightning has fallen from heaven and struck the sheep and their shepherds and consumed them; and I alone have escaped to tell you." While he was yet speaking, another came and said, "The Chaldeans formed three columns, seized the camels, carried them off, and put those tending them to the sword, and I alone have escaped to tell you." While he was yet speaking, another came and said, "Your sons and daughters were eating and drinking wine in the house of their eldest brother, when suddenly a great wind came across the desert and smote the four corners of the house. It fell upon the young people and they are dead; and I alone have escaped to tell you." (Job 1:14)

God stood and watched while Satan murdered at least sixteen of Job's employees and children, TO PROVE JOB FEARED GOD! But as the devout fanatics would say, "They belong to God, he can do what he wants with them."
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Once again the sons of God came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan also came with them. (Job 2:1)

And again God pointed out Job with pride, but this time God gave Satan possession of Job's body, just to prove a point. How bad did it get? When Job had boils, ...from the soles of his feet to the crown of his head his wife asked him, "Are you still holding to your innocence? Curse God and die." Three of Job's friends came to see him.
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But when, at a distance, they lifted up their eyes and did not recognize him, they began to weep aloud; they tore their cloaks and threw dust upon their heads. (Job 2:12)

They sat with him seven days and nights without saying a word, ...for they saw how great was his suffering. All the death, and all the suffering, TO PROVE A POINT TO SATAN! What does all this say about the God of the Jews? This all knowing, all seeing, loving, caring, most powerful God, felt the need to prove something to Satan? Why would HE care what Satan thought?



4th May, 2008 - 6:27am / Post ID: #

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All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

In Ecclesiastes I found a passage that has become one of my favorites. To me it is real food for thought.

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What has been, what will be; what has been done, that will be done. Nothing is new under the sun. Even the thing which we say, "See, this is new!" has already
existed in the ages that preceded us. There is no remembrance of the men of old; nor of those to come will there be any remembrance among those who come after them. (Ecclesiastes 1:9)

Millions of people died violently in the Old Testament. Part of them in wars, but a great number died at the hand of God himself, because he became angry. But this chapter deals with the conflicts that came about when two races of people were forced together.

The son of a prince raped Dina, the daughter of Jacob. Then
he decided he loved her and asked his father to, ..."get me this girl as my wife." When the father asked for her, the sons of Jacob lied and said, "We cannot do this; give our sister to a man who is not circumcised; for to us that would be a disgrace." Then Jacob's sons told Hemor the only way his son Sichem could marry Dina was for the whole city to become circumcised, so ...
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On the third day, when they were in pain, the two sons of Jacob took their swords, advanced boldly against the city, and slew all the males, and sacked the city. They took its flocks, herds and asses. All its wealth, its women and its children they carried off; and they looted whatever was in the houses. (Genesis 34:2)

This was a stiff price for a whole city to pay for one rape, but in saving face, God's people gained many animals and much loot. The big gain was a whole city of women to keep pregnant so God's numbers would grow, and Dina would never be raped again. Since a city is 12,000 people, (Josue 8:25) I will estimate low, and guess that only one fourth of the citizens were grown men.
3000 died.



5th May, 2008 - 7:49am / Post ID: #

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All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

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(Genesis 9:6) reads, "Whoever sheds the blood of man, by man shall his blood be shed; for in the image of God man was made. But in Exodus, whether you dared shed blood depended on who you were. On one occasion, after Moses had grown up, when he visited his kinsmen and witnessed their forced labor, he saw an Egyptian striking a Hebrew, one of his own kinsmen. Looking about and seeing no one, he slew the Egyptian and hid him in the sand. (Exodus 2:11)

1 died.

Later in the Old Testament, when a census of Jewish men was taken, they numbered 603,550. It is not unreasonable to suppose that the Egyptians were greater in number than the Jews. I purposefully keep the estimates very small so there cannot possibly be argument with the guestimates I derive from the stories told here.
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At midnight the lord slew every first born in the land of Egypt, from the first born of Pharaoh on the throne to the first born of the prisoner in the dungeon, as well as the first born of the animals. Pharaoh arose in the night , he and all his servants and all the Egyptians; and there was a loud wailing throughout Egypt, for there was not a house without its dead. (Exodus 12:29)

25% of at least 12,000 equals 3000 dead. But this was all right, because God created man to do with as He wants, just to prove a point?
3000 died.

Every child that has ever attended Sunday school has heard the story of the Jews escape across dry land while God held the water back. Has even one ever guessed how many Egyptian soldiers drowned when God released the water?
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As the water flowed back, it covered the chariots and the charioteers of Pharaoh's whole army which had followed the Israelites into the sea. Not a single one of them escaped. (Exodus 14:28)

The Egyptians would have persued the Israelites with at least as many fighting men as the Israelites had.
Guestimate, 603,550 died.



9th May, 2008 - 7:11am / Post ID: #

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Greed, and a hunger for power, turned Abimelech, the son of Gedeon's concubine on his Jewish brothers.

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He then went to his ancestral house in Ephra, and slew his brothers, the seventy sons of Jerobbaal. Joatham escaped , for he was hidden. (Judges 9:5)

70 died.

When Samson was married, he gave a seven day feast and proposed a riddle to the countrymen of his new wife. When they could not come up with the answer, they threatened to burn Samson's wife and her family if she did not get them the answer. She coaxed the answer out of Samson, and when he realized what
had happened, ...
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The SPIRIT OF THE LORD came upon him, and he went down to Ascalon, where HE KILLED THIRTY OF THEIR MEN and despoiled them; he gave their garments to those who had answered the riddle. (Judges 14:19)

Do you suppose God looked down one day and saw Samson humiliated by his own wife and said, "Psst. Hey Samson, why don't you just kill about thirty of these rascals. Then they won't feel so smart!"

To get even with the Philistines, Samson set fire to their wheat fields.
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When the Philistines asked who had done this, they were told, "Samson the son-in-law of the Thamnaite, because his wife was taken and given to his best man." So the Philistines went up and destroyed her and her family by fire. (Judges 15:6)
Guestimate 6 died.

To get even with the Philistines for killing his wife-to-be, Samson told them he would not stop, until he had taken revenge.
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And with repeated blows, he inflicted a great slaughter on them. Then he went down and remained in a cavern of the cliff of Etam. (Judges 15:8)

A great slaughter, (1 Kings 6:19), is 50,000 humans.
50,000 died.



10th May, 2008 - 6:28am / Post ID: #

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Killing was easy for Samson. In the next passage, ...

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the spirit of the Lord came upon him, to help him break free. Near him was the fresh jawbone of an donkey; He reached out, grasped it, and with it killed a thousand men. Then Samson said, "With the jawbone of an donkey I have piled them in a heap; with the jawbone of an donkey I have slain a thousand men. (Judges 15:15)

1,000 died

The Philistines came to their temple to sacrifice to their god, make merry, and use Samson for amusement. The temple was full when, ...
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Samson cried out to the Lord and said, "O Lord God, remember me! Strengthen me, O God, this last time that for my two eyes I may avenge myself once and for all on the Philistines."

Sampson braced himself against the two middle columns and said,
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"Let me die with the Philistines!" He pushed hard, and the temple fell upon the lords and all the people who were in it. Those he killed at his death were more than those he had killed during his lifetime. (Judges 16:27)

The preceding passages giving the number of people Sampson killed add up to 51,006. Since the passage immediatley preceding my writing clearly stated that he killed more at his death, than in his lifetime.
51,006 died

Samuel had King Agag brought to him, ...
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and Samuel said: "As thy sword hath made women childless, so shall thy mother be childless among women. And Samuel HEWED HIM TO PIECES BEFORE THE LORD in Galgal. (1 Kings 15:32)

1 died.

King Saul accused God's priests of turning against him to work with David, then ordered his messengers to kill the priests. They wouldn't, so Saul ordered his chief of servants to do it.
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And the king said to Doeg: "Turn thou and fall upon the priests." And Doeg the Edomite turned, and fell upon the priests and slew in that day eighty-five men that wore the linen ephod. And Nobe the city of the priests he smote with the edge of the sword, both men and women, children, and sucklings, and ox and donkey, and sheep with the edge of the sword. (1 Kings 22:18)

The population of a small city is 12,000, (Josue 8:25) plus 85 priests.
12,085 died.



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14th May, 2008 - 8:05am / Post ID: #

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All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

Again, I make sure the estimates I have to make are gross underestimates, so there is no room for argument with the total number.

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David pillaged the countries of Gessuri, Gerzi, Amalecites, the south of Juda, the south of Jerameel and against the south of Ceni. (1 Kings 27:8)

Six countries, with at least two cities in each country, and 12,000 human beings in each city.
144,000 died.

David lived with the Philistines and turned against his own people.
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And David wasted all the land, AND LEFT NEITHER MAN NOR WOMAN ALIVE; and took away the sheep and the oxen, and the asses, and the camels, and the apparel. And David saved neither man nor woman, neither brought he any of them to Geth, saying: "Lest they should speak against us." So did David, AND SUCH WAS HIS PROCEEDING ALL THE DAYS THAT HE DWELT IN THE COUNTRY OF THE PHILISTINES. (1 Kings 27:9)

This same chapter mentions three areas, Gessuri, Gerzi, and Amalecites, where he spared no one, but it also leaves no doubt that he carried on with this practice for some time. I will guestimate only three areas, with two cities of 12,000 each.
72,000 died.

I will add here several sentences with the numbers killed at that point in the Bible. These were very small conflicts, but people did die.
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And everyone catching his fellow by the head, thrust his sword into the side of his adversary, and they fell down together. (2 Kings 2:16)

24 died.



15th May, 2008 - 6:02am / Post ID: #

Mousetrails The Holy War The Bible Revealed - Page 19

All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

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Wherefore Abner struck him with his spear with a back stroke in the groin, and thrust him through, and he died upon the spot. (2 Kings 2:23)

1 died.
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But the servants of David had killed of Benjamine, and of the men that were with Abner, three hundred and sixty, all who died. (2 Kings 2:31)

360 died.
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And he stabbed him there in the groin, and he died, in revenge of the blood of Asael his brother. (2 Kings 3:27)

1 died.
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And they entered into the house secretly taking ears of corn, and Rechab and Baana his brother stabbed him in the groin, and fled away. (2 Kings 4:6)

1 died.
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...and the men coming out of the city, fought against Joab, and there fell some of the people of the servants of David, and Urias the Hithite was killed also. (2 Kings 11:17)

Guestimate 5 died.
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So he took three lances in his hand, and thrust them into the heart of Absalom; (2 Kings 18:14)

1 died.
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But Amasa did not take notice of the sword, which Joab had, and he struck him in the side, and shed out his bowels to the ground, and gave him not a second wound, and he died. (2 Kings 20:10)

1 died.
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So she went to all the people, and spoke to them wisely; and they cut off the head of Seba the son of Bochri, and cast it out to Joab. (2 Kings 20:22)

1 died.
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...and gave them into the hands of the Gabaonites: and they crucified them on a hill before the Lord: and these seven died together in the first days of the harvest, when the barley began to be reaped. (2 Kings 21:9)

7 died.
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He also slew an Egyptian, a man worthy to be a sight, having a spear in his hand; but he went down to him with a rod, and forced the spear out of the hand of the Egyptian, and slew him with his own spear. (2 Kings 23:21)

1 died.
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So Banaias the son of Joiada went up, and setting upon him slew him, and he was buried in his house in the desert. (3 Kings 2:34)

1 died.
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So the king commanded Banaias the son of Joiada; and he went out and struck him, and he died. (3 Kings 2:46)

1 died.
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And he went up thence to Bethel. And as he was going up by the way, little boys came out of the city and mocked him, saying: Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And looking back, he saw them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord; and there came forth two bears out of the forest, and tore of them two and forty boys. (4 Kings 2:23)

42 died.
The angel that saved Abrahams son from being sacrificed should have been present to stop this slaughter.
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Total humans killed, killing each other 940,237
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It is interesting to note that this number was brought about, not directly, but indirectly by God. Chanaan was a peaceful place until the Jews were ordered to invade the country and leave no one alive.
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So the five men went on and came to Lias. They saw that the people dwelling there lived SECURELY after the manner of the Sidonians, QUIET AND TRUSTING, with no lack of any natural resources. (Judges 18:7)

The quiet, trusting, security was obliterated for all time the day the first Jew set foot on Chanaan's soil!




 
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