Close Topic Options

Mousetrails - The First Holy War - Page 22

All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

Bad feelings developed between David and Saul, so David fled to the land of the Philistines and started attacking his own people. And the Philistine king

Since Juda, Jerameel, and Ceni are not cities, but areas, I would think David destroyed at least three cities.
36,000 died.


Kings had some strange ideas in Bible days. When the women sang David's praises, King Saul became angry, and jealous, and plotted ways to get rid of him.

200 died.


The Amalecites invaded Siceleg, and carried away David's wives. When he found them, he

David probably killed more than got away, but to keep the number small, if he and his men during the twenty four hour period only killed one man each, the dead would number at least 401.
401 died.


Saul's luck finally ran out when his warriors ran from the enemy. The Philistines then concentrated on Saul and killed his sons. Then when the archers wounded him, he ordered his armor bearer to kill him. But the armor bearer was afraid, so Saul fell on his own sword, then his armor bearer also fell on his sword.

(1 Kings 26:2) states that Saul had 3000 men with him hunting for David.
3,005 died.

War Holy The Mousetrails

All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

This is a passage where the messenger should not have repeated what he knew. (2 Kings 31:6) tells of Saul falling on his own sword. This young man says Saul leaned on his spear, but since he was not yet dead, he asked the young man to,

When he told David he had killed Saul, David ordered him killed because he had killed,

1 died.


Jews fighting and killing Jews was no less bloody than when they fought outsiders. The forces of Israel and Juda met one day at a pool, and one leader said to the other,

Twelve young men from each side rose,

24 died.


David lost seven more men that day, after the initial twelve.

367 died.


Isboseth, son of Saul, had two captains that killed him in his sleep. They took his head to David, telling him they had rid the earth of Saul's seed, hoping to be rewarded. Instead

3 died.

Edited: mousetrails on 6th Jun, 2008 - 7:36am

Mousetrails - The First Holy War Revealed Bible The

All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

After David was anointed king, and reunited Juda with all Israel, the Philistines came out to do battle with David. There is no number given here for the dead, but in the first verse of the next chapter, ...David again gathered together all the chosen men of Israel, thirty thousand. He would not have fought the Philistines with less men, and the Philistines had no hope of winning with less men than David
had. But this time, for the sake of argument, let's only kill off half of the Philistines.

15,000 died.


Same battle, different day.

Another 15,000 died.


After King David defeated the Philistines, and the land of Moab, he defeated the king of Soba and took the river Euphrates.

22,000 died.


David had conquered all the surrounding territory, and taken all the gold, silver, and a great quantity of brass. But that wasn't enough.

18,000 died.

Page 22 War Holy The Mousetrails

All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

It seems from the next passage that there was a season of the year when kings made war, even when there was no particular cause.

Human beings died here, no doubt. But any number would be a wild guess.


King David wanted to show kindness toward Hanon, king of Ammon, after his father died. But when David's servants entered Ammon, the princes told young King Hanon they were only there to spy and overthrow the city. Hanon shaved half of their beards, and cut away half of their clothes, and sent them away. David sent
warriors, so Ammon hired the Syrians to fight with them.

40,701 died.


This next battle had to be an absolute blood-bath. Even if you go back to the beard-shaving and clothes-cutting humiliation of David's servants in (2 Kings 10:4) there is nothing written in the Bible to justify such mutilation and horror as David and Israel rained down on Ammon. Were not the people of Ammon human beings, created by the same God that created David? Or were they just sinful cattle to be butchered, sawed, run over, and burned like garbage?


Read the next passage slowly, and then read it again. Let it pass through you until it is all absorbed.

Cities is plural, but the phrase is ALL the cities. I"m going to guess at least three cities were obliterated from the face of the earth.
36,000 died.

War Holy The Mousetrails

All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

According to this very book, the God in this book created these people, then stood by and said nothing about the carnage. Why? WHY? Go back just one verse.

God stood by and watched, or in many cases helped in the massacre because He wanted the gold, silver, precious stones, brass, and iron. And David gave his God what He wanted.

But this was not enough! God wanted it all! So David's son Asa

David's God was an aggressive god of war, and killing, and booty. He wanted all the precious and good things, and he got them!


When a Syrian king besieged Samaria and demanded King Achab's wives, children, gold, and silver, Achab agreed. But when Syria told Achab,

Remember the number for a great slaughter?
50,000 died.


But the Jews and the Syrians were not through killing each other. When the next battle season came, the Syrians thought they could win if they fought in the valley instead of the hills. So they placed captains in their army instead of kings, replaced the lost horses and chariots, and the 50,000 fallen men from the year before, and prepared to fight on the plain. And a man of God told King Achab,

And with the help of the God of the Jews,
127,000 died.

Mousetrails - The First Holy War

All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

I"m sure you have no doubt by now that Israel was God's army. But did you know God had two armies? I know. You never guessed He had one, much less two! Why haven't you ever heard this before? Because your preacher only reads the parts of the Bible he wants you to hear, and if you ever read about the prophet Michaes,
you just shined it on and kept reading? I can understand ministers that concentrate on teaching you to love your fellow man skipping this. What really surprises me is that hell-fire and brimstone, holyroller preachers that specialize in the religion of fear don't use what Michaes experienced as an anxiety tactic! Now, take a look for yourself at God's "other" army.


When all the prophets prophesied victory if Achab carried the battle to the Syrians to destroy them, the prophet Michaes told the king,

You have just seen through a prophets eyes, the WAR GOD of the JEWS, with his other army on his right and left. When Michaes called all the other prophets liars, they threw him in jail and fed him bread and water, but he was right!

The previous battle between Israel and Syria took 127,000 lives. Let's estimate this one at a mere 50,000.
50,000 died.

Mousetrails The Holy War - Page 22

All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

King Mesa of Moab had many sheep, and paid a tax to Israel's King Achab,

But when Achab died, the payment stopped. This made his son Joram unhappy, so he mustered all the Israelite army, and asked Juda's King Josaphat for assistance. The king of Edom also came along, but there is no mention of his army, so for
our body count, he will be left out. Due perhaps, to poor planning, Israel's army ran out of water. God told a prophet He would supply water, and then the prophet said,

The Moabites were protecting their borders when the sun came up red, and reflected red on the water. They decided it was a sign that the Jewish kings had fought among themselves and turned the water red, so they attacked Israel.

But just killing their enemies wasn't enough.

The phrase, every fenced city, and every choice city,was used, leading me to guess at least three fenced, and three choice, cities. Using the city of Hai (Josue 8:24) as a measure, we could guess 72,000 died, but I choose to use a smaller number. Once again, to keep the total down below the threshold of argument, I will choose the number for a "Great slaughter."
50,000 died.

Mousetrails The Holy War The Bible Revealed - Page 22

All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

There are no numbers given for the next conflict, but there are numbers back at (4 Kings 13:7) that give a clue.

His son Joaz, took his fathers rag-tag army, possibly built it up, and took back the cities from Benadad, son of now dead King Hazael.

Again, I will use the number of Israel's warriors, and guess that they would kill at least one man each. ... fifty horsemen, and ten thousand footmen could have killed 10,050.
10,050 died.


The Bible doesn't give a reason for this killing, but ten thousand human beings died because a Jewish king willed it!

10,000 died.


Judith wasn't a queen, or even a leader, but she did have a reason to kill. She was a beautiful, wealthy, strong willed, widowed Israelite. The Syrians once again besieged her people in Bethulia, and guarded the water supply, so Israel was dying of thirst. Judith put away her widows garments

Then Judith took her maid, wine, oil, corn, figs, bread, and cheese, and went through the city gates to meet the enemy commander.

And Judith

She told him she came to his side because she knew he would win. Then she promised him God would tell her the best time for him to take the city. She told him,