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22nd Jun, 2008 - 6:38am / Post ID: #

Mousetrails - The First Holy War - Page 24

All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

No matter, the rain came down, and the water began to rise. God had made the decision to end His creation, except for one man and his family. To prepare them for survival,

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...God said to Noe,"The end of all creatures of flesh is in my mind; the earth is full of violence because of them. I will destroy them with the earth. Make an ark of resin-wood; make it tight with fibre and cover it with pitch inside and out. (Genesis 6:11) The water rose fifteen cubits above the mountains so that they were covered. All flesh that moved on the earth died: birds, cattle, wild animals, all creatures that creep on the earth, and all men. All that were on the dry land in whose nostrils was the breath of life, died. (Genesis 7:20)

There were probably hundreds of thousands of humans on the earth at this point, but the only count I might point to would be Cain's city, Henoch. In the Old
Testament the city of Hai contained 12,000 people.
12,000 died.

Long after the flood, when man had had time to repopulate the earth, God must have had time on His hands. He hadn't created the nation of Israel yet, so the cities of Sodom and Gomorra caught His attention. They were so corrupt in His eyes that He decided to destroy them. But either He didn't discriminate, or even the children were corrupt, because He destroyed everything.
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The Lord poured down on Sodom and Gomorra sulphur and fire from the Lord out of heaven. He overthrew those cities and the whole region, ALL the inhabitants of the cities and the plants of the soil. (Genesis 19:24)

Early in the morning Abraham,
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...looked toward Sodom and Gomorra and toward the whole region and saw smoke rising from the earth as though from a furnace. (Genesis 19:28)

God wiped two cities and all the inhabitants, men, women, and children, from the face of the earth! Oh, yes. I"m sure they were very sinful, even the little children. I have a question for you. What power, what force, what unimaginable heat, was created by this God that left the whole region with
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... smoke rising from the earth as though from a furnace?

When you have pondered that question for a moment, I have another. How was the heat to obliterate two cities generated? I am not one to believe something is magically created from nothing. On this earth, deep cold would be the rule if our atmosphere did not capture and hold the heat from the sun. But such intense, localized heat would have to be generated. Man can create that kind of heat
today using atomic energy. How did God do it? Is man just now catching up to the technology this God used four thousand years ago?



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23rd Jun, 2008 - 6:13am / Post ID: #

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All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

In (Genesis 8:21) God said,

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"I will never again curse the ground on account of man," and "I will never again destroy every living creature,"

He didn't destroy the whole earth again but in (Genesis 19:24) He poured sulphur and fire on Sodom and Gomorra and
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overthrew those cities and THE WHOLE REGION, ALL THE INHABITANTS of the cities and the PLANTS OF THE SOIL.

24,000 died.

Illicit sex was obviously a part of the reason God destroyed Sodom and Gomorra. But the next passage had God micro-managing the sex lives of two brothers. It states that Her was wicked, so God killed him.
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Then Juda said to Onan,"Go to your brother's wife, perform your duty as brother-in-law, and raise up descendants for your brother.

Onan wasn't wicked, but he
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...knew that the descendants would not be his own, so whenever he had relations with his brother's wife, he wasted his seed on the ground. What he did was evil in the sight of the Lord, and HE KILLED HIM ALSO. (Genesis 38:7)

If only this much wickedness got Onan killed, how wicked was his brother Her? Later in the Bible, ( Leviticus 18:6 ) God absolutely ruled against having sex with a close relative, but here Onan died for not performing the act properly. God was really serious about raising the population numbers at this time in history.
All the women had to be pregnant all the time!
2 died.

Then God went from micro-managing two brothers sex lives, to being afraid to be seen. Only Moses and Aaron were allowed up the mountain to see God.
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Moses said to the Lord, "The people cannot go up to Mount Sinai, for you yourself warned us to set limits around the mountain to make it sacred. "The Lord repeated, "Go down now! Then come up again along with Aaron. But the priests
and the people must not break through to come up to the Lord; else He will vent his anger on them. (Exodus 19:23)

First, it is interesting that God used the words "break through" as though he feared that they would break through and see him. It is also interesting to me that He would, if seen, vent his anger, even on His holy priests.



24th Jun, 2008 - 7:08am / Post ID: #

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All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

Being afraid to be seen was not the only sudden change in this God. He began to make terrible threats. The threats in this passage are the most jealous, hateful, vindictive, threats in the whole Bible.

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...you shall not bow down before them or worship them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, inflicting punishment for their fathers wickedness ON THE CHILDREN of those that hate me, DOWN TO THE THIRD AND FOURTH GENERATION. (Exodus 20:5)

This God does not let innocent children off at all. He annihilated the children of Sodom and Gomorra, and now He damns the innocent children, grandchildren, and great grandchildren, of those that hate Him.


While Moses was on mount Sinai, Aaron made a golden calf to replace Israel's missing God. And God, in a fit of anger, showed every intention of exterminating three million people.
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"I see how stiffnecked this people is," continued the Lord to Moses. "Let me alone, then, that my wrath may blaze up against them to consume them. (Exodus 32:9)

But Moses reminded God that the Egyptians might say,
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"With evil intent He brought them out, that He might kill them in the mountains and exterminate them from the face of the earth." (Exodus 32:12)

With that little reminder, Moses saved the day. Why would the most powerful God on this earth care what the Egyptians might say?


The next move in the golden calf fiasco came from Moses. He was embarrassed because his foes would be scornful when they heard about the idol and knew Aaron had,
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...let the people run wild. (Exodus 32:25)

Moses gave the horrendous order to the Levites,
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Thus says the Lord, the God of Israel: "Put your sword on your hip, every one of you! Now go up and down the camp, from gate to gate, and slay your own kinsmen, your friends and neighbors!" The Levites carried out the command of Moses, and that day there fell about three thousand of the people. (Exodus 32:27)

Moses obviously took matters in his own hands here, but whether he did,
or God actually told him to command the Levites to kill their own doesn't matter. It was done in the name of God, and He didn't stop it, so He gets the credit! On this day, Jews killed Jews while their God watched.
3,000 died.



25th Jun, 2008 - 6:50am / Post ID: #

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All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

After Moses ordered the Levites to slaughter three thousand of their own people, he went to God to beg forgiveness for his people. Israel's God had always been with them, but this time He told Moses He wasn't going any further with them! He told Moses an angel would go with them to the land of milk and honey. Then He said,

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"Tell the Israelites: You are a stiff-necked people. Were I to go up in your company even for a moment, I would exterminate you. (Exodus 33:5)

God's anger did not cool quickly. He was still ready to obliterate three million human beings from the face of the earth.


I don't understand how this passage ever made it into the Bible. And I certainly cannot believe people that read it, can believe itwithout going into total denial. I cannot find one place in the Old Testament that is anything but control, manipulation, anger, and hatefulness. How can God say,
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"The Lord, The Lord, a merciful and gracious God, slow to anger and rich in kindness and fidelity, continuing His kindness and for a thousand generations, and forgiving wickedness and crime and sin; yet not declaring the guilty guiltless, but punishing children and grandchildren to the third and fourth generation for their fathers wickedness." (Exodus 34:6)

Let me rephrase the previous statement. I am a God that is merciful, gracious, patient, kind, and I strictly observe and stay faithful to my promises, but ......you get out of line and your great grandchildren will suffer for it! Still another threat to punish the grandchildren, to the fourth generation when they are born!


Everything had to be just so for the God of the Jews. If He didn't authorize even the fire you used, you could suffer His anger.
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During this time Aaron's sons Nadab and Abiu took their censers and, strewing incense on the fire they had put in them, they offered up before the Lord profane fire, such as he had not authorized. Fire therefore came forth from the Lords presence and consumed them, so that they died in his presence. (Leviticus 10:1)

God gave specific instructions in the Old Testament on every facet of life, except how not to make profane fire.
2 died.

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26th Jun, 2008 - 8:11pm / Post ID: #

War Holy The Mousetrails

All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

In the 26th chapter of Leviticus, God lists all the rewards he will bestow on Israel if they observe all his commandments. Rain at the proper time, food in abundance, peace in the land, no ravenous beasts, no war, and he would be their God. Then in the next breath, He tells them again what will happen if they disobey. It is the
longest, ugliest, most vindictive, hateful, thorough threat in the Bible. Please bear with me, you"ll never hear this in church!

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"But if you do not heed me and do not keep all these commandments, if you reject my precepts and spurn my decrees, refusing to obey all my commandments and breaking my covenant, then I, in turn, will give you your deserts. I will punish you with terrible woes-with wasting and fever to dim the eyes and sap the life. You will sow your seed in vain, for your enemies will consume the crop. I will turn against you, till you are beaten down before your enemies and lorded over by your foes. You will take flight though no one pursues you.

"If even after this you do not obey me, I will increase the chastisement for your sins sevenfold, to break your haughty confidence. I will make the sky above you as hard as iron, and your soil as hard as bronze, so that your strength will be spent in vain; your land will bear no crops, and its trees no fruit.

"If then you become defiant in your unwillingness to obey me, I will multiply my blows another sevenfold, as your sins deserve. I will unleash the wild beasts against you, to rob you of your children and wipe out your livestock, till your population dwindles away and your roads become deserted.

"If, with all this, you still refuse to be chastened by me and continue to defy me, I, too, will defy you and will smite you for your sins seven times harder than before. I will make the sword, the avenger of my covenant, sweep over you. Though you huddle together in your walled cities, I will send in pestilence among you, till you are forced to surrender to the enemy. And as I cut off your supply of bread, ten women will need but one oven for baking all the bread they dole out to you in rations-not enough food to still your hunger.

"If, despite all this, you still persist in disobeying and defying me, I, also, will meet you with fiery defiance and will chastise you with sevenfold fiercer punishment for your sins, till you begin to eat the flesh of your own sons and daughters. I will demolish your high places, over throw your incense stands, and cast your corpses
on those of your idols. In my abhorrence of you, I will lay waste to your cities and devastate your sanctuaries, refusing to accept your sweet-smelling offerings. So devastated will I leave the land that your very enemies who come to live there will stand aghast at the sight of it. You yourselves I will scatter among the nations at the point of my drawn sword, leaving your countryside desolate and your cities deserted.

Those who survive in the lands of their enemies I will make so  fainthearted that, if leaves rustle behind them, they will flee headlong as if from the sword, though no one pursues them; stumbling over one another as if to escape a weapon, while no one is after them-so helpless will you be to take a stand against your foes! You will be lost among the Gentiles, swallowed up in your enemies" country. Those of you who survive in the lands of their enemies will waste away for their own and their fathers guilt." (Leviticus 26:14)

Complete and utter devastation from a God the Jews didn't even ask for. Israel couldn't have invented an angrier God. No wonder they worship Him in fear to this day.





28th Jun, 2008 - 5:42am / Post ID: #

Mousetrails - The First Holy War

All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

In this passage God used a different way to show his anger.

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Now the people complained in the hearing of the Lord; and when he heard it his wrath flared up so that the fire of the Lord burned among them and consumed the outskirts of the camp. (Numbers 11:1)

He ordered three million people across a hot dry desert, and punished
them when they complained!


Their God led them across a desert without thinking first about food and water. In (Numbers 11:14) He fed them manna until,
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...the Israelites lamented again, "Would that we had meat for food! We remember the fish we used to eat without cost in Egypt, and the cucumbers, the melons, the leeks, the onions, and the garlic. But now we are famished; we see nothing before us but this manna.

Family after family grieved aloud,
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...so that the Lord became very angry.

So He told Moses to tell the people,
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"Sanctify yourselves for tomorrow, when you shall have meat to eat..For in the hearing of the Lord you have cried, `Would that we had meat for food! Oh, how well off we were in Egypt!" Therefore the Lord will give you meat for food, and you will eat it, not for one day, or two days, or five, or ten, or twenty days, but for a whole month-UNTIL IT COMES OUT OF YOUR VERY NOSTRILS and becomes loathsome to you. For you have spurned the Lord who is in your midst, and in his presence you have wailed, `Why did we ever leave Egypt?""

Until it comes out your very nostrils? What happened to,
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...'slow to anger and rich in kindness?"

If the people had known they would be treated to so much quail it would come out of their noses, they probably wouldn't have left Egypt.


So God sent a wind, and blew quail into and around the camp for a days journey in all directions.
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All that day, all night, and all the next day the people gathered in the quail. Even the one who got the least gathered ten homors of them. But while the meat was still between their teeth, before it could be consumed, the Lord's wrath flared up against the people, and he struck them with a very great plague. (Numbers 11:32)

God fed the Israelites manna until they begged for fish and fruit and vegetables. Then he sent them quail and killed the people who collected too much. As they say in church to this day, Lord have mercy!



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29th Jun, 2008 - 7:01am / Post ID: #

Mousetrails The Holy War - Page 24

All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

When Israel finally arrived at the promised land, spies went in and came back saying the people there were fierce giants that lived in fortified towns. Because they were afraid, they said,

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"The land that we explored is a country that consumes its inhabitants."

Some
of the people wanted to pick another leader and go back to Egypt. This made God very angry.
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And the Lord said to Moses, "How long will this people spurn me? How long will they refuse to believe in me, despite all the signs I have performed among them? I will strike them with pestilence and wipe them out. Then I will make of you a
nation greater and mightier than they." (Numbers 14:11)


Again He threatened to wipe out over three million people. And although he offered to make a new nation out of Moses, Moses saved the day by reminding God again what the Egyptians might say if they heard of it. We will never know, but how interesting it would be to know why He would care.


After God's threat to wipe out Israel, His temper cooled just a little. But His next threat, He carried out to the letter, negating every promise He made to every man He raised up to lead the Jews. Time, after time, after time, He promised His appointed leaders, "I will GIVE you a land of milk and honey." Now, in obvious, heated, anger, He threw Himself the king of all temper fits, and said,
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..."of all the men who have seen my glory and the signs I worked in Egypt and in the desert, and who nevertheless have put me to the test ten times already and have failed to heed my voice, NOT ONE SHALL SEE THE LAND WHICH I PROMISED ON OATH TO THEIR FATHERS. None of these who have spurned me shall see it. (Numbers 14:22)


Then He proceeded to make it painfully clear what the consequences were for not invading Chanaan, and driving the present inhabitants away from their land and their homes.
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But as for you, your bodies shall fall here in the desert, here where your
children must wander for forty years, suffering for your faithlessness,
till the last of you lies dead in the desert. Forty days you spent in scouting the land; forty years shall you suffer for your crimes: one year for each day. Thus you will realize what it means to oppose me. I, the Lord, have sworn to do this to all this wicked community that conspired against me: here in the desert they shall die to the last man. (Numbers 14:32)

The word He used so often was GIVE. He said He would GIVE Israel a land of milk and honey. They were not trained fighters. They did not expect to have to fight for the land He was GIVING them, so they wimped out. In a fit of anger, He called them wicked, conspiring, criminals, that were not worthy of His oaths and promises, and turned them back into the desert to die to the last man.



30th Jun, 2008 - 4:47am / Post ID: #

Mousetrails The Holy War The Bible Revealed - Page 24

All Bible quotes are from the Douay-Catholic Bible

God had several ways to punish Israel for getting out of line. When they offended Him, one of his favorites was to ignore them, until they were in such misery they cried out. God appointed Aod to lead them to victory over King Eglon. Peace reigned for eighty years. But when Aod died,

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... the Israelites again offended the Lord. So the Lord allowed them to fall into the power of the Chanaanite king, Jabin, who reigned in Hasor. (Judges 4:1)

When next they offended God, their leader was Samgar, and when they cried out
again, He sent the prophetess Debora. In trouble, out of trouble, and back in. It is a pattern they continued generation after generation.


Forty years after Debora rescued them, they repeated the cycle again.
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The Israelites offended the Lord, who therefore delivered them into the power of Madian for seven years, so that Madian held Israel subject. (Judges 6:1)

If Israel didn't follow their God, there was always some king ready to do God's dirty work. All He had to do to punish them, was turn His back!


Has it become evident to you, that the Jews didn't want to follow this God? In this passage, they forgot the path He had pointed out, and strayed again.
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Since they had abandoned the Lord and would not serve him, the Lord became very angry with Israel and allowed them to fall into the power of the Philistines and the Ammonites. For eighteen years they afflicted and oppressed the Israelites in Basan, and all the Israelites in the Amorrite land beyond the Jordan in Galaad. (Judges 10:7)




 
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