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1st Jul, 2008 - 4:21am / Post ID: #

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Here again, I ask you, where was God while they were abandoning Him? Three million people didn't just one day decide to tell God they weren't interested anymore. If He was always, or even often, with them, they would stay pretty close to the straight and narrow. But He had to disappear for long periods of time for the whole nation of Israel to abandon Him. Since it is the nature of human beings to
have some kind of religion, what kind of religion would you have if the god you thought you knew disappeared for eighteen years?


But Israel is accused of abandoning their God one to many times. In the next passage is one of the biggest shocks I found in the Bible. Never once have I ever heard it read, or discussed in church. God got tired of saving His chosen people! The next time they cried out,

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"We have sinned against you; we have forsaken our God and have served the Baals." The Lord answered the Israelites: "Did not the Egyptians, the Amorrites, the Ammonites, the Philistines, the Sidonians, the Amalecites, and the Madianites oppress you? Yet when you cried out to me, and I saved you from their grasp, you still forsook me and worshiped other gods. THEREFORE I WILL SAVE YOU NO MORE. Go and cry out to the gods you have chosen; let them save you now that you are in distress." (Judges 10:11)



Let's have the truth here! God didn't save anybody. He appointed reluctant leaders to lead Israel into battle. Be that as it may, HE GAVE THEM THE BOOT! God appeared to only one human after that. Samuel heard his voice 499 years after Moses's death. Many leaders claimed to have heard His voice, but after Samuel's
death, God did not "appear" again until King Solomon saw him four hundred thirteen years later. The Jews were on their own. Their God turned His back, and walked away. After that, a more common type man began to lead Israel into battle.



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2nd Jul, 2008 - 5:56am / Post ID: #

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"The spirit" came upon a man named Jephte, and he defeated the Ammonites. After Jephte, Abesan, Elon, and Abdon judged Israel for twenty five years. Then,

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The Israelites again offended the Lord, who therefore delivered them into the power of the Philistines for forty years. (Judges 13:1)

Once again, a mere man defeated Israel's oppressors. A boy named Samson grew up, and the spirit stirred him. Every Christian knows the rest of that story.


This God was capable of committing wholesale slaughter at the blink of an eye, without remorse. The ark of God was captured and held by the Philistines, until God made them so miserable they decided to get rid of it. When it showed up in Israel one day, the people of Bethsames rejoiced. Then, although the Bethsamites
offered holocausts, and sacrificed victims to God,
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...He slew of the men of Bethsames, because they had seen the ark of the Lord: and He slew of the people seventy men, and fifty thousand of the common
people. And the people lamented, because the Lord had smitten the people with a great slaughter. (1 Kings 6:19)

No. You haven't forgotten already! A great slaughter was 50,000 people.
50,070 died.


When Samuel was old, his sons judged Israel in a corrupt way, taking bribes, and perverting judgement. So the people decided what they needed was a king. Samuel told them,
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... you shall cry out in that day from the face of the king, whom you have chosen to yourselves: and the Lord will not hear you in that day, because you desired unto yourselves a king. (1 Kings 8:18)


But the people wanted a king. God was beat. Israel made it very plain that they
had rejected Him, so He told Samuel,
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"Hearken to their voice, and make them a king."



When Samuel anointed Saul king, he gave him orders direct from God.
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"Now therefore go and smite Amalec, and utterly destroy all he hath. Spare him not, nor covet anything that is his; but slay both MAN and WOMAN, CHILD and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and donkey. (1 Kings 15:3)

God, through Samuel, had ordered annihilation, slaughter, genocide, call it by whatever name you choose. A city, it's human population, and all it's animals were ordered to be wiped from the face of the earth by the God of the Old Testament, a God still worshiped today by millions of Protestants and Catholics the world over. LORD HAVE MERCY!



3rd Jul, 2008 - 6:17am / Post ID: #

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But instead of following orders to the letter, Saul brought back the king of Amalec and the best of the flocks and herds. This made God sorry He had made Saul king. He was so angry, He rejected him forever as king of Israel. (1 Kings 15:4) numbers Saul's army at 210,000. Amalecs people would not number less than 210,000 men. Now, since women, and children were on the list of things to be destroyed, let's add a wife for each soldier, (210,000 ) and two children, (420,000) and we have an idea how many people the God of the Jews had slaughtered.
840,000 died.


After Samuel reminded Saul what he had done wrong, because he had not followed orders, Saul wanted Samuel to go before God with him.

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Samuel said to Saul: "I will not return with thee, because thou hast rejected the word of the Lord, and the Lord hath rejected thee from being king over Israel." (1 Kings 15:26)

Samuel mourned for Saul, but never saw him again. And true to his word, no forgiveness possible, no second chance, God abandoned him, and picked another
man to be king.


While David was in the desert, he watched over Nabal's flocks. But when he asked Nabal for food, he was rejected. David became angry, and was going to get even with Nabal, and all that belonged to him including,
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...any that pisseth against the wall.

Nabal's wife slipped away and brought David food, and appeased him. But she
didn't appease God.
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And after ten days had passed the Lord struck Nabal, and he died. (1 Kings 25:38)

David's vindictive God got even for him.
1 died.



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King David built a new cart, and took thirty thousand chosen men of Israel to fetch the ark of God. It had been in the house of Abinadab, in Gabaa. Abinadab's sons Oza, and Ahio, drove the cart. Now Oza and Ahio, both Israelites, were sons of the man who took care of the ark. They must have known the power of, and the rules
for, handling the ark. Still, even though they knew, they went with it to help.

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And when they came to the floor of Nachon, Oza put forthhis hand to the ark of God, and took hold of it, because the oxen kicked and made it lean aside. And the indignation of the Lord was enkindled against Oza, and he struck him for his rashness. And he died there before the ark of God. (2 Kings 6:6)


If there had been an instruction session before the ark was moved, would King David have told Oza not to touch the ark, even if it fell to the ground? I wonder how many men God would have killed if the ark had fallen to the ground. Even David was un-nerved. His next question makes it very clear that,
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...David was afraid of the Lord that day, saying: "How shall the ark of the Lord come to me?" And he would not have the ark of the Lord brought in to himself into the city of David.

God's temper was instantaneous, and violent, and when God's temper was hot, there was almost always a loss of life.
1 died.


God gave David Saul's house, and his wives, and made him king over Israel and Juda. But that wasn't enough. David saw a beautiful, married woman. He slept with her, impregnated her, and saw to it that her husband died in battle so he could marry her. This displeased God, so He sent Nathan to talk to David, and tell him,
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"Thus saith the Lord: Behold, I will raise up evil against thee out of thy own house, and I will take thy wives before thy eyes and give them to thy neighbor, and he shall lie with thy wives in the sight of this sun. For thou didst it secretly; but I will do this thing in in the sight of all Israel, and in the sight of the sun. (2 Samuel 12:11-12)


God did not take his appointed king committing adultery, or indirect murder, lightly. David immediately admitted he had sinned, but was told because of his sin, his new-born child would die. God
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...struck the child which the wife of Urias had born to David.


And although David begged for the child's life, and fasted, and lay on the ground,
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...it came to pass on the seventh day that the child died. (2 Samuel 12:18)


But everything turned out all right in the end. When the child was dead, David washed and anointed himself, changed his clothes,
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and went to the house of the Lord and worshiped.

When he returned to his house, he called for bread and ate. Then he slept with the wife of Urias:
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and she bore a son, and he called his name Solomon, and the Lord loved him.

Pardon me! David saw to it that Urias died in battle, so he could marry his pregnant wife, Bethsabee. For this, God killed an innocent child. But when David slept with the very same woman, and another child is born, God loved it? David was still a womanizer, and Bethsabee was still a harlot. Nothing had changed, except David had crawled on his belly and apologized!



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Jeroboam did not intend to apologize when he stood on the altar, and a man of God told him one of David's children would burn the bones of his prophets there. Jeroboam stretched out his hand, and ordered the man seized, but his hand withered. As the man had predicted, the altar split, and the ashes poured out. Jeroboam asked for prayer, and when the man of God prayed, the arm was restored. The king asked him to eat with him, but he said God told him not to
eat or drink in this place, and left. A prophet met him on the road, asked him to eat with him, then lied to the man of God, telling him an angel said it was all right. This time God was right there watching, and punished him. Soon after he left,

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...a lion found him in the way and killed him.

When the prophet found his dead dinner guest, he said,
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"The Lord hath delivered him to the lion, and he hath torn him, and killed him according to the word of the Lord, which he spoke to him."

God always gets angry, and almost always gets even.


But Jeroboam knew this, and even after the altar broke, and ashes poured out, and his withered arm was restored, he
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...came not back from his wicked way; but on the contrary he made of the meanest of the people priests of the high places.


Again God was watching, so when Jeroboam's wife disguised herself, and asked Ahias the prophet what was to become of her sick child, he told her to tell Jeroboam, God said he had made molten gods, and cast God behind his back, so He was going to
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...bring evils upon the house of Jeroboam, and will cut off from Jeroboam
him that pisseth against the wall, and him that is shut up, AND THE LAST OF ISRAEL. And I will sweep away the remnant of the house of Jeroboam, as dung is swept away till all be clean. Then God told Jeroboam's wife what was going to happen to Israel. And the Lord shall strike Israel as a reed is shaken in the water; and he shall root up Israel out of this good land, which he gave to their fathers, and
shall scatter them beyond the river. AND THE LORD SHALL GIVE UP ISRAEL for the sins of Jeroboam. (3 Kings 14:9)



At the same time Israel was sinning, Juda was doing the same bad things Israel was doing, except they went one step further.
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There were also the effeminate in the land, and they did according to all the abominations

(extreme disgust and hatred)
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of the people whom the Lord had destroyed before the face of the children of Israel.

So, because He had been rejected, the God of Israel did the meanest thing He could think of to get even.
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...Sesac king of Egypt came up against Jerusalem. And he took away the treasures of the house of the Lord, and the king's treasures he carried off; as also the shields
of gold which Solomon had made.

Egypt regained some of the gold that was taken in the Exodus!



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It wasn't gold that King Achab wanted. He wanted the vineyard of Naboth, that joined King Achab's house. But when Naboth wouldn't sell at any price, Queen Jezabel arranged to have Naboth stoned for blaspheming God and his king. But when King Achab arrived to take possession of the land, he was met by the prophet
Elias, with a message from God.

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"Behold I will bring evil upon thee, and I will cut down thy posterity, and I will kill of Achab him that pisseth against the wall, and him that is shut up, and the last of Israel. And of Jezebel also the Lord spoke, saying: "The dogs shall eat Jezabel in the field of Jezrahel.." (3 Kings 21:21)

Ah! But this one has a twist. Achab said he was sorry, and tore his clothes, and
wore haircloth, and slept in sackcloth, and fasted, and walked with his head down. And God said to the prophet Elias,
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..."Hast thou not seen Achab humbled before me? Therefore, because he hath humbled himself for my sake, I will not bring the evil in his days, but IN HIS
SON"S DAYS WILL I BRING THE EVIL UPON HIS HOUSE."

God has grown soft in his old age! There was a time when He ordered a man stoned for gathering wood on the Sabbath. Here He let Achab and Jezabel get away with premeditated murder, but that's all right. God would just punish the son instead!
1 died.


King Ochozias probably wished God would punish his son for his mistake, but it wasn't to be. When the king fell and injured himself, he sent messengers to a strange god to ask if he would live. But an angel sent Elias to meet the messengers and tell them Ochozias was going to die. When the messengers described the prophet, Ochozias sent a captain, and fifty men to bring Elias down from the top of a hill. When they reached Elias, he had fire come down from heaven to consume them. And when the king sent another captain, and fifty
men, he had them also consumed by fire. The third captain of fifty begged Elias to spare his life, and an angel appeared to tell Elias to go down to the king. So Elias told the king, because you sent messengers to consult another god, you will die. King Ochozias forgot rule number one. Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
103 died.


After hundreds of years of God making all the laws, and rules, and orders to keep His precepts, and ceremonies, and after all His terrible threats, Israel still had not learned! They sinned again! They must have been tired of their God, because they did it all. They held nothing back. And even though He was telling them at the time to turn from their wicked ways, they obviously didn't fear Him, because they continued to do everything He had ever told them not to do. They built high places, made statues, and groves on every high hill, burnt incense, and when He tried to talk to them, they,
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... hearkened not, but hardened their necks like the neck of their fathers, who would not obey the Lord their God. (4 Kings 17:14)



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They rejected Him, made molten calves, served Baal, consecrated (dedicated to a sacred purpose) their sons, and daughters through fire, and gave themselves to divinations, and soothsayings, until their God had had enough.

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And the Lord was very angry with Israel, and removed them from his sight, and there remained only the tribe of Juda. But neither did Juda itself keep the commandments of the Lord their God, but they walked in the errors of Israel, which they had wrought. AND THE LORD CAST OFF ALL THE SEED OF ISRAEL! (4 Kings 17:18)



After all the promises to make Israel a great nation, be their God, give them a land of milk and honey, and lead them into battle, HE DUMPED THEM! The sacrifices, the offerings, the suffering crossing the desert, the battles they fought, and the gold and silver they handed over, meant nothing! He was through!
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And in the ninth year of Osee, the king of the Assyrians took Samaria, and carried Israel away to Assyria.

Then King Nabuchodonosor came from Babylon, captured and burned the temple and the city of Jerusalem, and carried all the people of Juda off to Babylon as slaves. ISRAEL WAS NO MORE!


But even though Israel was gone, God was angry when the king of the Assyrians brought people from Babylon and other cities to live in Samaria. He hadn't given up His dream of Israel living there, so
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... when they began to dwell there, they feared not the Lord; and the Lord sent lions among them, which killed them. (4 Kings 17:25)

It would seem that He wanted the land to stay empty. He gave up on the Israelites, but when someone else moved in, just for spite he sent in lions.


Then God decided lions were not enough. He didn't want the king of the Assyrians in Jerusalem. He said,
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"I will protect this city, and will save it for my own sake, and for David my servant's sake." And it came to pass that night, that an angel of the Lord came, and slew in the camp of the Assyrians a hundred and eighty five thousand.. (4 Kings 19:35)

185,000 died



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And the passage at the end of 4th Kings leaves no doubt what happened to the Jews and why.

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For the Lord was angry against Jerusalem and against Juda, TILL HE CAST THEM OUT FROM HIS FACE. (4 Kings 24:20)


Total people killed because of Gods anger 1,208,505

Total people killed in war by God's army 4,400,193

Total people killing each other in Chanaan 940,237
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Grand total that died because God created 6,548,935 the Nation of Israel


Now I want to tell you about a night several months ago, and something I stumbled across. I have always worked long hours, so the research and the writing of this book has all taken place after the days work was done. I have burned the midnight oil for nine years, and wondered many times at the vindictive anger of the God of the Old Testament of the Bible. I knew that God had not always been mean to His own, so I decided to see if I could find when the change
happened.


One night very late, I was ready to close the Bible and turn off the computer, when a single word caught my eye. It first struck me as being out of place, or not belonging in this time period. The word was crime. It was used for the first time in the middle of the book of Exodus, shortly after the golden calf incident in (Chapter 34, verse 7.) In the middle of a book in the Bible, the vocabulary and
character of Israel's God changed drastically and instantaneously. When I realized what I was thinking, my mind rebelled. My thought process was going against everything I had been taught about the Bible. But as I examined the implications of what I had stumbled across, my mind raced ahead to the controversy it would cause. My next thought was nobody will believe it! But I was intrigued. I stayed up until two A.M. remembering being told, if you believe in something, you"ll find the facts you want to support your belief. But I was in a place torn between childhood lessons and an idea that would not go away. The more I researched, the more I believed I had really stumbled onto something. I researched it all again, knowing
that a mature humans character very seldom, if ever, changes.



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