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30th Aug, 2006 - 9:06am / Post ID: #

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Remember I asked you for the truth however you saw it? I feel that is exactly what I got, pure honesty, and I am very proud. It will always be interesting to me what people think of the book. If your friends read it, point out that I can be contacted through the Mousetrails website at ( Contact the Author ) I would love to hear from everybody that reads it. And thanks again Konq



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8th Jun, 2007 - 7:53am / Post ID: #

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My wife and I are Certified for California Farmers Markets. We go to market almost every Saturday of the year, so I keep copies of Mousetrails on the table for sale.
Two weeks ago a lady picked up my book and read the back cover. When she finished she looked at me and said very emphatically, "MY GOD DIDN"T FLY!" Then she turned on her heal and left. Statements like that don't surprise me any more and I can laugh at that type of character, because I did my homework.

All quotes in italics are from the Douay version of the Christian Bible

The Bible says God,

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...FLEW: AND SLID UPON THE WINGS OF THE WIND.


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Mount Sinai was all wrapped in smoke, for the Lord came DOWN UPON IT IN FIRE. The smoke rose from it as though from a furnace, and the whole mountain trembled violently. (Exodus 19:18)


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In the daytime the cloud of the Lord was seen over the dwelling; whereas at night, fire was seen in the cloud by the whole house of Israel in all the stages of their journey.          (Exodus 40:38)


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Whenever the ark set out, Moses would say,"Arise O Lord that your enemies may be scattered, and those who hate you may flee before you."  And when it came to rest, he would say, "Return, O Lord, YOU WHO RIDE ON THE CLOUDS, to the troops of Israel."   (Numbers 10:35)


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"There is no God like the God of the darling, who RIDES THE HEAVENS IN HIS POWER, and RIDES THE SKIES IN HIS MAJESTY.   (Deuteronomy 33:26)


As you will see in the next verse, God didn't always fly on the power of fire and make mountains tremble. Sometimes, He was much quieter.
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And when thou shalt hear the sound of one going in the tops of the pear trees, then shalt thou join the battle: for then will the Lord go out before thy face to strike the army of the Philistines. (2 Kings 5:24)


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And he said to him: "Go forth, and stand upon the mount before the Lord; and behold the Lord passeth, and a great and strong wind before the Lord overthrowing the mountains, and breaking the rocks in pieces; the Lord is not in the wind, and after the wind an earthquake; and the Lord is not in the earthquake. And after the earthquake a fire; the Lord is not in the fire, and after the fire A WHISTLING OF A GENTLE AIR.."Â 


Read this book like any history book. ...
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and flew: and slid upon the wings of the wind.
This can only mean one thing, the god of the Jews flew in machines described by ancient man as a fiery chariot. His sounds were described as thunder, trumpet blast, and a whistling of a gentle air, but He flew!
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And he rode upon the cherubim, and flew: and slid upon the wings of the wind.     (2 Kings 22:11) 


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8th Jun, 2007 - 1:48pm / Post ID: #

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I guess know wants to hear or even consider that the God they believe created all would need a machine to fly as he would just appear. But people need to remember every one is entitled to their opinion or interpretation of the bible right or wrong.

Rather off topic, but...

Just curious have you read any books by Art Bell Global Super storms in one but I was thinking more of his other venues such as The Source: A journey through the unexplained. I think you might like some of his books though some of his writing style in the early stuff is rough



13th Jun, 2007 - 12:15am / Post ID: #

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I finished reading this book a couple of days ago and this is my review.

"The First Holy War" by Keith Stephens.

It was a very difficult book to read. As a Latter-Day Saint and journalist, I tried very hard to keep an open mind while reading it and stopped several times in order to research on my Bible and collect my thoughts. Many of Keith's questions are answered in the doctrine of my Church which believes in more books than just the Bible.

When I read this book, I almost had the impression Keith was actually having a personal conversation with me because of how casual it was written. The way he described things in some parts was a bit too emotional for my taste and I felt in many of his words a lot of anger and frustration, a bit unnecessary in my view if the real issue is just to show some controversial and almost unnoticeable passages in the Bible.

I was fascinated by his idea of the three "Gods" and I must admit, I never thought about it in that way. I think it was brilliant and well explained as well as the chapter dedicated to women.

I learned a lot of new things by his easy to understand explanations of some hard passages of the Old Testament. This book took a huge amount of research as well as mathematic equations.

I was not fond by his constant "blood fetish" and "river of blood" statements and many times felt as I was reading the book of an atheist, only at the end I fully understood what he has been trying to say all along. I felt also that some of the book was repetitious in certain places while necessary in others in order to emphasize a certain point.

When I finished reading it, it gave me the impression of a book of reconciliation. Keith remarkably put together scriptures in a way few can.

It left me a bitter-sweet taste and I want to thank Keith for carrying me through this wonderful journey. Some parts of this book I'll never forget.



14th Jun, 2007 - 7:10am / Post ID: #

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Krakyn, I just returned from a 900 mile plane trip to see my son and his family. I am no stranger to flight and I love to fly, but as I flew I thought about all the things I saw and knew were taking place as I flew. First are all the communications the pilots have at their finger tips, then the receivers that follow radio signals that lead them to any spot they want on the face of the earth. We were being followed on radar, as all planes are, by an air traffic controller to make sure there are no mid-air collisions. Throughout most of the trip people were talking on cell phones. If I could go back only two generations and show all this to my grandfather he would probably believe it was some kind of magic. I don't believe in magic of any description. I believe there is a logical explanation for everything we see, feel, and hear. So if the Bible says God "flew:and slid upon the wings of the wind" I believe it, but I don't believe he just floated across the sky on a magic carpet.

Art Bell? I find him a bit of a stretch to believe.

LDS_forever, when I saw your long review I thought uh-oh, because I knew you would say exactly what you thought and I was a bit apprehensive. I held my breath as I read your very exact review and breathed a sigh, because more than anything else, I wanted your respect.

The book was meant to be much more than just a way to show controversy and hidden passages. I meant it to be my answer to the way I was treated as a child in the name of religion. So yes, since I was very passionate in what I felt, you probably did feel some of the anger, frustration, and emotion, that I felt as I wrote the book. I was encouraged to write the way I did by two wonderful ladies in my self-critique group. One was a writer/minister, the other a retired college English professor. One has passed away, the other moved away.

Thank you for your very descriptive review. I will cherish it along with Konquererz's

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14th Jun, 2007 - 2:49pm / Post ID: #

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I meant it to be my answer to the way I was treated as a child in the name of religion.


Actually that's exactly what I sensed and wrote it on my review but then I erased the sentence because I was not sure how you would take it but yes, I feel the emotional aspect of the book was your way of releasing all the anger and frustration your mom put you through as a child.

I was glad I was able to read it because I really wanted to give it a review. You taught me a lot of things and I am grateful for it! Some of the passages you quoted, I will never forget. Yes! They were quite scary.



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22nd Jun, 2007 - 6:55am / Post ID: #

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From Mousetrails-The First Holy War
Douay version of the Bible

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When men began to multiply on the earth, and had daughters born to them, the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were fair, and they took wives for themselves, as many as they wished. (Genesis 6:1)


In the beginning, God had more than one son that married the daughters of men, AS MANY AS THEY WISHED. If the sons of God were in fact deities, why would they lower themselves to marry the daughter of a common human being? If they needed a wife, or wives, why then did they not marry another deity? When female deities were in short supply, would they pick a likely human prospect to take up, clean up, and dress in white robes, then add wings and give her flying lessons? Did they marry her before or after she soloed? When the wives of the sons of God had children, did they all go to heaven? Men being men, and the custom of the day was to have multiple wives, they could have had wives in heaven AND on earth. It is entirely feasible to think that some, or all of these wives stayed on the earth. The great, great, great grandsons of God are probably walking the earth today. The Bible calls these grandchildren of God, "giants."

Douay-Bible
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There were GIANTS on the earth in those days, and also afterward, when THE SONS OF GOD HAD RELATIONS WITH THE DAUGHTERS OF MEN, WHO BORE CHILDREN TO THEM. (Genesis 6:4)


The Hebrew word for giants was Nephilim. One translation of the word nephilim is, 'the men who came down," or 'those who came down from the sky." The only being ever known to impregnate a female human being is a male human being. Since the God of the Jews had grandchildren by female human beings, then He and his sons were nothing more than mortal men with a power that was unimaginable at that time --- the power of flight.



12th Jul, 2007 - 6:27am / Post ID: #

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Adam and Eve had two sons, Cain, and Abel. Cain killed Abel because of jealousy CREATED by his God.
Douay version of the Bible

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The Lord was pleased with Abel and his offerings; but for Cain and his offering he had no regard. Cain was very angry and downcast. (Genesis 4:4)

Cain had to wonder what was wrong with his offering? Because he was trying to please his God, he probably brought the best he had to offer. But he did not do well, so it was not accepted. His fruit of the ground was rejected! When rejection showed on Cain's face, he got a lecture on sin and doing a better job, then he was driven from the soil and told he would be a fugitive and a wanderer.
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Cain said to the Lord, "My punishment is too great to bear.  ...from your face I shall be hidden.  ...whoever finds me will kill me."  But the Lord said to him, "Not so! Whoever kills Cain shall be punished sevenfold." (Genesis 4:13)

At this point in the Bible story, supposedly there are only two other people on the face of this new earth. Neither Adam nor Eve would be referred to by Cain, or God, as "WHOEVER," indicating there were other people on the earth. Cain was not afraid his mother or father would kill him. He was afraid SOMEONE ELSE would kill him. Cain traveled to a distant land, married, and had grandchildren. Cain and the descendants of Adam and Cain married eight women and Cain founded the city of Henoch. (Genesis 4:16-26)
The Bible is explicit in its geneology, always mentioning brothers and sisters married into the same family. None of the women Adam's descendants married are named as sisters, so let's do some simple multiplication. Each of the eight wives had a mother, a father and, being careful not to exaggerate, let's say at least one sibling. Eight wives times a family of four suddenly becomes at least thirty two people plus Adam, Eve, and Cain. Now we are up to thirty five. Add the city (12,000 ) that Cain founded and the numbers are very different from the numbers in the Bible. Adam, Eve, and Cain were definitely not alone when they were created. There were other mothers giving birth to daughters for Cain and Seth to marry at about the same time Cain and Seth were born.



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