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22nd Apr, 2006 - 3:23pm / Post ID: #

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To me, there are a huge number of reasons why prophets (and A Prophet) are needed now.

First of all, one is needed to sort through the mass of contradictory and controversial doctrines and practices that are currently in vogue within Christianity. A Prophet can do this. The gift of prophecy, on the personal level, can do it even better.

Secondly, the gift of prophecy will be needed to guide people through the tribulations and trials that will face us in the last days.

Third, the gift of prophecy can be a huge help as an individual tries to be of service to others.

Fourth, since we, as LDS, believe that there was a great apostasy within Christianity in about the 2nd Century, and that the authority to perform ordinances was lost (ignored, despised, etc.), a Prophet was needed to restore that authority, along with the doctrines that were cast out of Christianity.

There are many other, smaller and less noticeable reasons for my belief in the gift of prophecy. These are just a few of the major, quick and easy things that come to mind.



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22nd Apr, 2006 - 4:58pm / Post ID: #

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First of all, one is needed to sort through the mass of contradictory and controversial doctrines and practices that are currently in vogue within Christianity.


To people of the LDS church, that may seem the case, but in fact, the LDS religion is only contributing to the contradiction and controversy.

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Secondly, the gift of prophecy will be needed to guide people through the tribulations and trials that will face us in the last days.


Why? Doesn't the teachings of Christ already give us Christians the hope and faith that will lead us through those last days? Why do we need prophets to accomplish this?

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Fourth, since we, as LDS, believe that there was a great apostasy within Christianity in about the 2nd Century, and that the authority to perform ordinances was lost (ignored, despised, etc.), a Prophet was needed to restore that authority, along with the doctrines that were cast out of Christianity.


The flaw in this argument is that that same apostasy exists today, even more so, with the existence of the LDS church. Yes, LDS members may believe that their religions and teachings are the answer to the controversy that exists in Christianity, but so does every other Christian sect. Then why should one be correct over the other? Because an individual believes in it?
I am not saying that LDS is wrong or right, any more than any other religion is wrong or right. What I have an issue with is the apparent 'need' for a Prophet when we have the body and life of Christ to save us all. If one does not believe in a living-day prophet, are they doomed from entering the kingdom of God? What are the ramifications for those who do not practise the teachings of LDS, keeping in mind that these teachings were not around until a couple of hundred years ago?



Post Date: 23rd Apr, 2006 - 5:27pm / Post ID: #

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We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.


This is my favorite article of faith to discuss yet, simply because this enters into a debate that has raged between several christian sects for ages now. Like the church I grew up in, the LDS church obviously believes in the absolute REAL expression of the gifts of the spirit and other matters of the spirit world. I find it interesting that they are even debated when they are listed as gifts, but never taken back. In fact, revelations mentions that in the last days others will use the gifts such as visions, dreams, and tongues.

But the bigger argument that I hear is that it is no longer needed. Why could that be used as a reason that they don't exist? We don't decided what is needed any longer or not. In fact, often times the prophets were not used to give them guidance on the future, but to chastise them for their peoples attitudes and even wickedness. A prophecy is not necessarily used for new revelation, but can also be used to keep the church in line. While I'll admit, I don't necessarily have the understanding to discuss the LDS view and use of prophets, I think that saying that it doesn't exist is like deciding for god what is needed in the world any more when we can't possibly know that.

24th Apr, 2006 - 6:08am / Post ID: #

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The belief that there are no modern-day prophets is popular but not biblical. Christ said prophets would follow Him. He also said there would be continued revelation to apostles and prophets to help them in guiding His Church.

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Wherefore, behold, I send unto you prophets, and wise men, and scribes: and some of them ye shall kill and crucify; and some of them shall ye scourge in your synagogues, and persecute them from city to city. Matthew 23:34

Christ also said that He expects His followers to receive them as His messengers:
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He that receiveth you receiveth me, and he that receiveth me receiveth him that sent me. He that receiveth a prophet in them name of a prophet shall receive a prophet's reward; and he that receiveth a righteous man in the name of a righteous man shall receive a righteious man's reward.

Why would He speak these words were prophets not to follow?
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If one does not believe in a living-day prophet, are they doomed from entering the kingdom of God? What are the ramifications for those who do not practice the teachings of LDS, keeping in mind that these teachings were not around until a couple of hundred years ago?

Those who do not accept or hear the gospel in this life will have the opportunity to do so after death. LDS believe that man's spirit enters a spirit world after death, where they may continue to grow and learn.
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For, for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit. 1 Peter 4:6

For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison 1 Peter 3:18-20

The LDS ordinance of Baptism for the Dead is for those who haven't had the opportunity to be baptized in mortality. This, as well as other necessary ordinances, is what our geneology work is all about.



Post Date: 26th Jan, 2010 - 10:42pm / Post ID: #

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international QUOTE (malexander @ 22-Apr 06, 12:58 PM)
To people of the LDS church, that may seem the case, but in fact, the LDS religion is only contributing to the contradiction and controversy.

Name: Anthony

Comments: To the man of secular Christian faith, the LDS church does not suggest we have new doctrine, we have eternal doctrine that hasn't changed, the church was restored in the 1800s not invented. These principles of having a prophet were instiled before Christs time and continued with Christ, he was the head of the church, acting as a mediator to the people of our heavenly Fathers will, what we need. We believe and use scripture in every aspect of our religion, and we also believe god still loves us and his work is not done. He is concerned with us, that hes not done speaking to his children. That's why we have the need for a prophet.

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27th Jan, 2010 - 6:26am / Post ID: #

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I've been through a lot of ridicule over this topic. I'm the only LDS member in my family. The rest of my family are Christian of one sect or another. But, they all seem to agree, to accuse me. The funny thing is though, at family functions, they always ask me to say the prayer. Which is weird for me, because if they don't believe in modern day revelation, then why do they want me to pray? If God can't bless the food, when I ask Him to, then why bother asking. And, I know they all pray privately, once in a while. Asking for help in this situation or that situation. But, if God can't answer, then why ask?
The answer - because He can and dose answer our prayers. And that's the basic foundation of revelation.

Here's a very fundamental example from my life. They hired a new guy where I work. He wasn't the kind of guy an LDS man should be hanging around with. He smoked, drank, cursed, and hung out in strip clubs. He seemed to want my companionship, and was having a hard time dealing with his brothers recent suicide. Part of me said "stay away from him, he's trouble" and the another part said "be his friend, he needs help". So I asked God what I should do.
And a scripture immediately popped into my head, that said "whatever you do for the least of my brothers, you do for me". Nothing huge or miraculous. Just a simple communication, that I consider revelation, or an answer from God. It would be easy to rationalize it away as something else, but for me, it was clearly an answer from God.

international QUOTE (malexander said)
the LDS religion is only contributing to the contradiction and controversy.

I can see how someone who doesn't believe in revelation might think that.
But from my perspective, It sounds like you are saying that the LORD is responsible for the contradiction and controversy. Since I know that the LORD is at the head of this Church that bears His Holy Name.
You might ask, "well how can you know that?"
And I would answer, "There's your need for modern day revelation."
I know because I asked, and God told me so.
You should try it.
Ask God if the LDS church is true.
Ask God If the Book of Mormon is true.
Ask God if He really dose have a living prophet on earth today.
international QUOTE (James 1: 5)
If any of you lack wisdom, let him ask of God...

Everything else is speculation.
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Post Date: 7th Feb, 2010 - 10:58am / Post ID: #

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We need these prophets today so they can call us to repentance an remind us of our covenants that we made to heavenly Father in the name of Christ. Because we believe in prophecy and in revelation, we believe that God has once again called prophets again on earth to do his work. What justifies the prophecies and revelations we recieve was when the Great Jehovah himself said to Moses on the Mount of Transfiguration: "My works are without end...and my words never cease."

Post Date: 1st Jun, 2010 - 5:16pm / Post ID: #

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Name: S.Later

Comments: What kind of healing happens in the Mormon church? Are the blind made to see and deaf to hear?

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