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1st Nov, 2007 - 7:33pm / Post ID: #

Matter: Can It Be Created? - Page 4

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God can do anything so what's the big deal with him creating something from nothing?


I just do not believe LDS doctrine allows for God to create matter without preexistent elements (Creating matter out of nothing).
According to LDS doctrine the elements are eternal (Doctrine and Covenants 93:33), and God must use these elements in creating Matter.

Joseph Smith explained this from the Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, pg. 158
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Anything created cannot be eternal; and earth, water, etc., had their existence in an elementary state, from eternity."


I do not think there is a more concise explanation on the fact that matter (Earth Water Etc.) could not be created from nothing.



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1st Nov, 2007 - 8:01pm / Post ID: #

Created It Matter

Well I can buy that, but since spirits are also matter it is hard to define what nothing is cause to many spirits might be nothing.



1st Nov, 2007 - 10:38pm / Post ID: #

Matter: Can It Be Created? Studies Doctrine Mormon

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to many spirits might be nothing.


I think the definition of Nothing is the absence of matter. Since spirits have matter according to Joseph Smith, then they cannot, by definition be nothing.


Further insight from Joseph Smith

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Now, the word create"¦does not mean to create out of nothing; it means to organize; the same as a man would organize materials and build a ship. Hence, we infer that God had materials to organize the world out of chaos-chaotic matter, which is element"¦. Element had an existence from the time [God] had. The pure principles of element are principles which can never be destroyed; they may be organized and reorganized, but not destroyed. They had no beginning and can have no end"



Post Date: 29th Mar, 2008 - 7:38pm / Post ID: #

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Comments: [In my opinion...] We as latter day saints do not believe in "creatio ex nihilo" as the rest of fallen Christianity.

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