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Matter: Can It Be Created? - Page 2

You have a point, it is then converted into energy. But the atom can always be brought back to it's original form. The matter is not truly destroyed or obliterated for good.

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Matter is not the most basic structure of matter, it's just the most basic that we can see. If we look at the scriptures it's intelligence that is the most basic form. So if we could destroy an intelligence then we would be able to say matter can be destroyed.

For our resurrected bodies DNA is not needed, what God uses is the shape of our spirit. Nighthawk, let me use you as an example please. I'm not trying to pick on you. From Nighthawks picture, he is thinning a little on top and seems a little over weight. (me too.) If God were to use DNA then Nighthawk would like identical after the resurrection. We know this is not true for the scriptures tell us the all our hair will be restored that not one strand of hair shall be removed. :happy:

Our DNA has stands is completely flawed with genetic defects that cause unfortunate side effects (for a lack of better words). In the resurrection I will have a full head of hair. Weight is also a different thing, in the resurrection I won't be fat, I will look average just like everyone else, even the world's fattest man, woman and child will be thin. So saying DNA is used in the resurrection to rebuild our bodies is flawed. God will take our DNA and purify it, or in other words he will take away any flaws that our present DNA has.

Has for matter being destroyed not even a Blackhole can destroy matter it just converts matter from one form to another, which is dark matter.

Edited: Zelph on 3rd Sep, 2006 - 9:55am

Matter: Can It Be Created? Studies Doctrine Mormon

Firstly the claim of "scientists" that they have split an atom is unsubstantiated. Certainly something has happened to cause the explosion and we know how to do that much. In fact there are scientists who don't even believe in atomic theory. Pictures they show of supposed "atoms", "electrons" etc could be anything. Science put forth the atomic theory and men have called it fact. They keep adding and adding to it until everybody believes in it. Modern science is the most major world religion with more followers than anyone could predict, other than their priests (who wouldn't know but would sound like they did). As to atoms there is no picture that is without doubt an atom as science claim exists.
Matter is made up of things that can't be invented. God merely organises these particles to form substances. In fact many of us helped in this process, as we know. At resurrection these particles will just be reorganized.
I like the thoughts you all have expressed. They show thinking minds that are searching. There is a lot of interesting subjects that you have hinted at within this subject.

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Theoretically, the implications of E=mc...2 are that matter and energy are interchangeable. Matter could be created from energy and energy from matter.

Dan, nuclear bombs do destroy matter. After the release of energy and the splitting - the combined pieces have less mass than the original.

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I had heard this claim before that scientists had found less matter after an nuclear explosion. I would be curious to see how they conducted such an experiment. I don't know that you would find much of anything after such an explosion. I'm just joking there. But to comment on this conclusion would require a very good examination of all things relevant to the tests.
In addition to this the question would be, have they really measured the basis of matter, or merely what they can see? Just how minute are the things God uses in creating? How much does our primitive science know of real particles? Can real particles actually be destroyed? If our civilization were to go on for another hundred years our discussion would involve far different concepts of matter.

Matter: Can It Be Created?

Um, an actual atomic bomb involves several fission reactions in rapid sequence. I'd imagine that they probably test this type of thing on a smaller scale in those huge circular particle acceleration chambers. They accelerate one particle faster and faster through the chamber for several miles and then ram it into another.

I believe that the mass problem is one of molecular weights. There are less subatomic particles after the reaction in the two atoms than before.

I don't know if I'm allowed to post links to information on this subject.

Edited: deleens on 10th Nov, 2006 - 4:45pm

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Thanks for the information. But several points are still outstanding in what I am saying and what you are answering. Firstly, the things that some have presented here to answer the question as to God and matter are based on belief in the unproven theory of atoms. How possible is it that atomic theory is correct? Remember that the theory has been created and enlarged due to known facts, not visa-versa. I studied atomic theory as a TV/VCR/computer tech. Things that occur in reality in TV repairs often don't match atomic theory. Those doing palient doping of semiconductor barriers say that the barriers don't fit with the theory of barriers. Scientists have a dreadful habit of ignoring things that don't suit their theories. You are placing your complete trust in the claim of these particular scientists regarding matter. I have seen too much rubbish from "science falsely so called" (as Paul put it) to make me so ready to believe whatever they claim without being there to see it. Just consider for a moment that without ever having seen one they invented the entire atomic theory, involving parts, orbits, how many in each orbit, directions of orbits and size of particles relative to each other. Does sense tell you that they could possibly be right? Have you any idea of what the odds against them being correct are? I couldn't begin to comprehend the odds of them being correct in even one point, let alone the whole thing. Theory science is the largest religion in the world. It probably has more followers than every other religion put together.
So the question of God and particles making up matter isn't really answered so simply in my opinion. Our primative science can't be used to answer such a question. I feel this is a question that requires a spiritual examination.

Edited: DougT on 10th Nov, 2006 - 9:37pm

Matter It Created Mormon Doctrine Studies - Page 2

The King Follette Discourse by Joseph Smith is very clear on this matter, in my opinion. It can be easily found through the internet's search engines. Everything is eternal, it just changes the state which it is in. All intelligences and all raw matter, whatever its form may be before it is given instructions to behave a certain way, have existed and will forever exist, and there is an infinite amount of it. Therefore the kingdoms and glories of God will never stop growing. There are certain essays that deal with the whole concept of "creation ex nihilo", which means "creation out of nothing", and that that doctrine came along in the Nicean era of the Church, and that in fact the Israelites and early Christians beleived in the eternal existence of all things. I'll post a link to this information later on.