Mormons Saying: "I Have Seen Jesus Christ"

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29th Sep, 2008 - 6:11pm / Post ID: #

Mormons Saying: "I Have Seen Jesus Christ"

I Have Seen Jesus Christ

If a Member of the Church in all sincerity told you they saw Jesus Christ then what will be your first gut reaction? What will be your reply? Will you say anything or just nod?



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29th Sep, 2008 - 7:15pm / Post ID: #

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In most cases I would not believe it. That is probably why it would never happen to me.

I would probably thank them for telling me (wondering why they would tell me) and steer the conversation to something else. To me, discussing something like this is akin to discussing sacred things about the Temple. This may be wrong but this is how I would react.



Post Date: 30th Sep, 2008 - 4:24am / Post ID: #

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Why would you not believe him? You believe in jesus Christ. We have all seen him before we came here and we will see him after. Some of us may witness the second coming. Why is it so far fetched to believe that someone could have a vision of him? Many people have had visions of him. And many more will have visions of him if you believe in revelations.

On the other hand. If someone came to tell me that he saw jesus then I would also suspect why. People just don't get a vision for the fun of it. There has to be a reason and I think that is personal. Perhaps the individual could share with family at the right time.

I would ask him why he thought jesus came to him. I would also ask what he looked like and what his feeling was at the time (which actually could be a wide range of things). I would probably ask him a number of things and see where his motivation was after he saw him. Does he think he is a prophet now? Does he feel powerful? His motivation is the key. Is he trying to use it to get some kind of gain? I would work it till I found out if he was genuine or not.

Actually I probably wouldn't respond at all unless I thought it would affect someone else. Even the devil will come as an angel of light.

Hey, you know what I will tell you. We are all mature adults, some more than me. Yah, I have seen him. Sure I have. I was having some serious problems. I was calling God a wimp and the sun a punk and much worse things. Much much worse. I was putting up a tough fight with the repentance process and was taking it all out on the God head. I was alone, betrayed, and so I hated God. Serious depression. And it seamed that everyone turned on me and they really did. It is way to much to discuss. I threatened to destroy his church and whoever for him not keeping his promise. I said that he didn't care about me or any of us. On and on.

I was asleep at noon when the sun peaked threw my window and my eyelids slightly opened to gaze in the bright light of the sun, but it wasn't just the light I saw. I saw the lord in a thrown of clouds looking sideways to the right, but his pupils gazed at me. He was half stepped off of his pillowy thrown as if to pounce. He was leveraging his arms on the cloudy arm rests and it almost seamed that he was riding the clouds. His skin was a golden color. The hair was neatly formed and it seamed as though a fountain of golden light came from the top of his head and all over. It was white and gold light everywhere. I stood in awe for a while. I was standing and his head began to move slightly towards me. I tryed to flee but the light was all around me and my feet wouldn't move. I had no where to run. I knelt and covered my head with my arms and closed my eyes before he could square his face with mine. I begged like a child for him to go away and to give me just 6 months. He didn't go away. He just stuck around and I begged a few more times. When I stopped begging the vision went away. He greeted me with rath but it was more like the way you would treat a 2 year old that thought he was in charge of everything. It is very hard to explain.

That was almost 4 years ago now. Everything has changed since then. I have gone back and relearned many things. I called him out and discovered that I was really the one that was the coward. But he had enough respect for me that he faced me and it wasn't in a degrading manner. My views and mind set changed completely. And he lingered on as if to say that he wouldn't leave me and he never has. It goes on and on. I have gotten so much understanding from that 5 to 10 seconds in time. It is permanently eched in my brain. People tell me how I acted before and I have a hard time believing it. It has been a slow painful process. I haven't had any visions of him since. I don't really want any right now to be honest. I am still trying to sort this out.

Having a vision doesn't necessarily mean that the person is wonderful. In my case it was more likely that I wasn't. It is just takeing a long time.

I am much more sensitive to the prophets and get very defensive of the church and christ. Even though I know very well that the lord doesn't need anyone defending him. Definitely the other way around.

Believe me or not. I hope that this helps people understand things better. If you got any input please add it. These things do happen. It is not the kind of thing that people should lie about.

30th Sep, 2008 - 4:37am / Post ID: #

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QUOTE (dbackers @ 29-Sep 08, 2:15 PM)
I would probably thank them for telling me (wondering why they would tell me) and steer the conversation to something else. To me, discussing something like this is akin to discussing sacred things about the Temple.

I have to concur with you. There are some things that should be shared with select audiences. This would be one of those things, unless you were instructed to tell the world or whatever.

Some things should not be shared just due to the sacredness of it all. Some should not be shared because the are meant only for the receiver. Other things should only be selectively shared as prompted by the Spirit, in part due to the sacredness, in part because most people may not understand and it subjects you and the experience to mockery and ridicule.



30th Sep, 2008 - 4:40am / Post ID: #

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If someone personally came to tell me they saw Jesus Christ I would ask them many questions. I DO think is possible for someone to see the Lord and that person does not have to be the Prophet only.

I have never seen Christ face to face but I had two wonderful and sacred dreams about Him with deep messages on it many years ago.



30th Sep, 2008 - 5:06am / Post ID: #

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QUOTE (LDS_forever @ 29-Sep 08, 11:40 PM)
If someone personally came to tell me they saw Jesus Christ I would ask them many questions.

I think it would depend upon who it was and the circumstance in which it was shared. I would put more credence to someone I was close to who was sharing a sacred confidence with me, because they trusted me, in an appropriate setting.

If it were just someone who happened to be a member of the Church I would wonder why they were telling me. I don't know if I would doubt them or not. It would depend upon who it was and the context in which they shared the information. I am pretty sure I would seek some kind of confirmation from the Spirit before just blindly believing.

Of course it is possible for someone to see the Lord. It has happened on many occasions throughout time. The heavens are not sealed so there is no reason to think otherwise. But it is still something that does not happen every day and
not something that most people are ready to withstand.



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Post Date: 30th Sep, 2008 - 6:06am / Post ID: #

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I think that you have to separate visions dreams and actual visitations. I have pondered this. They are completely different categories.

I think that you would have to be a celestial being to have a visitation from christ or god. Joseph smith was probably a celestial being from a young age. He got a visitation. A vision is completely different. You don't have to be Celestial to survive a vision. It is more like a recording. A dream is even less, unless it is a detailed dream. Maybe a detailed dream is a vision. There are categories. Visions and dreams are not physical.

When christ comes again in full view of a telestial world (earth) the world will have earthquakes and burn and whatever else. That is what happens when a celestial being comes in contact with a telestial world (only the terrestrial and above will survive). It is destruction or rebirth. That is when the world goes to a terrestrial state. A terrestrial world or person can be visited by a celestial being. That is how christ can rule during the millennium. A terrestrial person can go down to the telestial kingdoms. But a celestial being can not go to a telestial world without destroying it or them. The Celestial kingdom will go in to a celestial state after the millennium. It goes threw the same process just like us.

I often wonder if joseph Smith was not taken somewhere else during his physical visitation by the Father and the son (like moses).

I wonder how much is known? I would like to know where to start. It can be difficult to understand.

Moses had direct contact with god and it turned his hair white. That was not a vision. Moses was a celestial being that was probably celestial and it was difficult for him. Not a vision or dream. Practically anyone can receive a vision or dream.

How much is really understood by some here? Please add some more replies so that I know more.

Reconcile Edited: Quasar on 30th Sep, 2008 - 6:12am

30th Sep, 2008 - 7:23am / Post ID: #

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Thinking on this, I don't think I would even have to ask questions.

IF the person saw Christ face to face, I would think it would be mostly hand in hand with an ordinance dealing with calling and election, which those who have had it (C&E) DON'T talk about it and those who haven't do. I think there are many more people than we think that have had the privilege or will have in this life to see Christ face to face. There are other threads on that though.

IF the person saw Him in a vision or a dream and felt prompted to share it with you...The Spirit would have no choice but to testify of the truth. I even tend to think it would testify if the person spoke about it without being prompted but not totally sure, I would have to think about it more.

When I read Quasars account, I had no reason to not believe him and really no reason to judge why he would have seen him. Coming from 6 years of serious inactivity though I know as well, that Christ will manifest himself (whether by vision, spirit, whatever) to those who would come back, even at times when we don't think he would. Like mentioned, I think that those messages are for the sinner mostly and therefore they mean more to them--maybe the turning point every person needs at some time. I feel that if I prayed about it tonight the Lord would probably tell me that it was true and that is it. If we were discussing face to face trials and the road back to becoming active in the church I think the Spirit would testify to me right there and then.

PS--Obviously this is just my thoughts and opinions.

Reconcile Edited: AlaskanLDS on 30th Sep, 2008 - 7:24am



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