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10th Nov, 2006 - 2:42pm / Post ID: #

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These election results are a clear attack against the Bush Administration. I was surprised when Bush won the last election, I certainly didn't believe his administration had done anything to warrant a second term in office. Now the US people have woken up to this. If anything good is to come out of it, at least the most incompetent defence secretary, perhaps in US history, has fallen on his sword. I believe Rumsfeld was kept on life support by his leader for such a moment.

These mid-terms say nothing about the Conservatism vs Liberalism debate. As Nighthawk points out, in some states conservative referendums passed while some Democrats chose to run on conservative platforms.

The "enemies" of the US, whoever they are or whatever that ridiculous term means, don't really care about US mid-term elections. If a few left-wing tree-huggers want to score political points by Bush bashing and saying "I told you so", then so be it. It means nothing to the rest of the world.

Mousetrails I highly doubt the sky is going to fall on your head because there is an impotent US government for two years. In fact things might settle down a bit. I would also argue that the incidence of terrorism has shot up since Bush came into power, so perhaps if his government is removed it could have the opposite affect.

Another good fallout is that John Bolton, perhaps the most hated ambassador in the UN, is likely to be punted. This disastrous appointment, arguably worse than the Paul Wolfowitz appointment to the World Bank, must now go before Senate and already one Republican has said Bolton will leave.

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10th Nov, 2006 - 7:12pm / Post ID: #

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Arvhic, what universe are you living in? The terrorist are dancing in the streets because they swayed the election with violence and it worked. Do you really believe they don't know what effect they had? Arvhic, time will tell, and trust me, I'll be watching with interest.
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Before the election:
Gas prices? Down.
Stock market? Up.
Recession/depression/inflation? Not really.
Federal interest rate? Steady.

Gas prices? I've heard it said many times, "No, No, we don't control the price of gasoline. Supply and demand controls the price." Ever since the first "created" gas shortage big oil has jacked the price by telling the world that incidents like the Exxon Valdeez caused a shortage. The Exxon Valdeez wasn't even a hiccup in the supply. Or we got stories like, "We have a refinery down for service." Funny all those stories came out in the spring when vacation travel was starting and died back in the fall when school started. But coming into the election BP announced it had to shut down the Alaska pipeline for maintenance, so the price started up and the Bush administration said, "No, No, No! We have plenty of oil in reserve." Like magic prices started down!

Since the stock market and interest rates are tied together all Bush had to do was tell the Federal Reserve to keep the interest rates down. Like magic the stock market headed for new highs, businesses thrived, and the un-employment rate dropped like a rock. What a great idea! But why not 6 years ago?
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You can't convince me that the economy isn't managed by "The Powers That Be," and that the manipulation around major elections is so obvious!

Once again FarSeer, you have taken the words right out of my mouth.
The question that I will never have the answer for is, "Why now? Since you could have made those changes 6 years ago Mr. Bush, why now?" He made a few good decisions, but they must have been accidents, because in some ways he has the brains of a peanut!


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Post Date: 10th Nov, 2006 - 8:13pm / Post ID: #

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Who Voted and Why? A Roundtable Discussion on the Ethnic, Religious and Social Makeup of Voters in the Elections
Exit polls are showing significant shifts in voting patterns among the electorate. Democrats succeeded in winning back some religious voters who had voted solidly Republican in the last few elections. For the first time since 1996, a majority of Florida Latinos voted Democrat. Young voters had a huge increase in turnout with two million more young people voting on Tuesday than in the 2002. And African American voter turnout made the difference in tight races like Missouri and Virginia. We host a roundtable discussion.
Ref. https://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=06/11/10/1426225

Post Date: 11th Nov, 2006 - 8:45am / Post ID: #

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This election was and remains a clear message to president Bush that they do not think he has done a good job. There is really no leg to stand on when arguing against this being that the main campaign point for democrats was "Had enough? Vote democrat!". We said we want a change and voted democrat.

I really hate this ridiculous argument that voting democrat some how is unamerican or just what the terrorists want. You say terrorists are dancing in the streets, but those were the streets of Iraq, and didn't have terrorist signs up stating they were terrorists. Iran was happy as well. The thing is that the world over was happy because the Republicans have failed to be diplomatic and have that gun slinger attitude.

I won't go further on that since its in another thread, but only to say that if you don't agree with me, you are in the minority, the recent election proves it! We as a majority have ceased believing the fear factor and stopped believing the lies. Democrat or republican, we are no longer willing to give the republicans another chance to do things right. Bush knows what the message was, thats why he fired Rumsfeld, and hired someone from a real presidents old regime to fix this war. Bush's father knew how to do things right, maybe now Bush will start to come around. Its taken six years, but we finally got the rubber stamp congress out of office.

11th Nov, 2006 - 10:19pm / Post ID: #

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I didn't like Bush #1 and Bush #2 is just as liberal. I detest liberalism, Democrat, or Republican, but gunslinger? Yesterday the terrorist told us ( US ) very plainly that they will not rest until they blow up the White House. I don't have any idea how I would have handled Afganistan and Iraq, but I have no doubt you would have called me a gunslinger too. Maybe you could lay out your idea on how to stop the terrorist without fighting them on US soil. I would be very interested in your plan.


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12th Nov, 2006 - 12:22pm / Post ID: #

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Arvhic, what universe are you living in? The terrorist are dancing in the streets because they swayed the election with violence and it worked. Do you really believe they don't know what effect they had? Arvhic, time will tell, and trust me, I'll be watching with interest.


I am living on a planet where the US is not the only country that exists. It's called Earth. Do you honestly believe terrorists who live on the other side of this planet care that the people of one country have dismissed their ruling party? I don't recall seeing pictures of terrorists dancing in the streets? You know, not every Arab is a terrorist. And, if you believe terrorists do care, then maybe you should ask yourself why?

IMO, if anything, terrorists will be angry that Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney and company have been shut up by their people. The actions and rhetoric of the Bush Administration has been one the best marketing tools for Al-Queda and other terrorist groups to recruit angry Muslim. Why do you think US and coalition partners are always mentioned when these terrorist figures release video messages?

The Republican Party, through its idiotic War on Terror has done more to advance the Islamic fundamentalist cause than Bin Laden himself. In fact people like Al-Zarqawi became such "legendary" figures only because of the PR campaign used by Bush, Blair and other proponents of the War on Terror. There is no proof they ever did anything to warrant their notoriety.

So I don't believe terrorists care about the US election results except to be a bit concerned that they might have to think of new ways to remain relevant to the people they recruit. If they tell the world they influenced the vote, then you are rather foolish to believe this is anything more than a PR stunt. Outside of September 11, has there been many cases where terrorism has been fought on US soil?


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12th Nov, 2006 - 7:39pm / Post ID: #

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arvhic, since you believe absolutely nothing I say and it's obvious you aren't about to change your mind, I have done some research you could have done very easily. And also since you believe nothing I say, I have begun to wonder why I say it, so I won't. But as a parting shot here are just 4 of the thousands of websites available on your computer. There is another (world ) out there past the liberal "news" you read.

https://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=165835
https://www.drudge.com/news/87473/cartoon-t...lebrate-dem-win

Rather off topic, but...
https://volcanoes.usgs.gov/Hazards/What/VolGas/volgas.html
https://vulcan.wr.usgs.gov/Glossary/Emissio..._fumaroles.html


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12th Nov, 2006 - 8:41pm / Post ID: #

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I do not fully understand this. Prior to 9/11 the USA had terrorists attacks, of course not to the magnitude of 9/11 (I would have to research to come up with a list unless everybody agrees on this point and do not need proof) I am pretty sure that some of those attacks were done during both Republican and Democrat administrations. So what is this that the Terrorists are concerned over US elections's results? Terrorists do not think like that, it does not matter to them who is in power...they will still "do their thing". It is my opinion that besides the USA, nobody else is concerned about mid-term elections in that country.

Rather off topic, but...
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arvhic, since you believe absolutely nothing I say and it's obvious you aren't about to change your mind,


Why he should change his mind? I notice you keep saying that. This is for the sake of discussion and exchange opinions, not to brainwash anybody in believing what we do.


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