RominaL,
Disculpa, pero estoy teniendo bastante problema entendiendo tu posicion. Lo mas seguro es que sea yo, pero esto es lo que estoy entendiendo: En un comentario das la impresion que estas a favor de la idea de "traer todos los hijos que podamos"
RominaL
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No es acaso lo que nuestros lideres han ensenado? (de traer todos los hijos que podamos) |
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Si las cosas estan dificiles para todo el mundo pero el Padre Eterno ha establecidoa traves de su iglesia mandamientos y uno de ellos es el de multiplicarse, podemos escribir una lista larga de justificaciones pero sigue en pie. |
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No es acaso lo que nuestros lideres han ensenado? (de traer todos los hijos que podamos) |
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Bien, sabemos que la posicion actual de la Iglesia es que el numero de hijos es una decision de pareja y que el mandamiento de multiplicar y henchir la tierra sigue en pie (Proclamacion para la Familia) asi decir que es irresponsable tener demasiados hijos me parece injusto. |
No entiendo tu confusion, mi posicion no es para nada contradictoria.El mandamiento de procrear sigue en pie y la posicion de la Iglesia es basicamente que la pareja decida (en el pasado la iglesia claramente ha dicho que debemos traer todos los espiritus que podamos fisicamente)ahora la iglesia decidio que la pareja decida lo que no significa que piense que tener muchos hijos es irresponsable (como has dicho).
Tu argumento es uno de falta de fe. Si Dios ha dado ese mandamiento, no es El acaso el que proveera con lo que necesitemos para cumplir con tal mandamiento? Tu razonamiento es el que el mundo tiene.
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(en el pasado la iglesia claramente ha dicho que debemos traer todos los espiritus que podamos fisicamente)ahora la iglesia decidio que la pareja decida |
Bueno las citas que los lideres de la Iglesia han hablado en el pasado estan aqui (en Ingles):
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"Where husband and wife enjoy health and vigor and are free from impurities that would be entailed upon their posterity, it is contrary to the teachings of the Church artificially to curtail or prevent the birth of children. We believe that those who practice birth control will reap disappointment by and by." (Spencer W. Kimball, "Marriage is Honorable," Speeches of the Year, 1973, p. 263) |
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When the husband and wife are healthy, and free from inherited weaknesses and disease that might be transplanted with injury to their offspring, the use of contraceptives is to be condemned. (First Presidency {David O. McKay, Hugh B. Brown, N. Eldon Tanner} |
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Those who attempt to pervert the ways of the Lord, and to prevent their offspring from coming into the world...are guilty of one of the most heinous crimes in the category. There is no promise of eternal salvation and exaltation for such as they. (Relief Society Magazine 3:367-368, July 1916 Joseph Fielding Smith) |
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Sabes si hay alguna mas reciente? |
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"Thus we see that in marriage, a husband and wife enter into an order of the priesthood called the new and everlasting covenant of marriage. This covenant includes a willingness to have children and to teach them the gospel. Many problems of the world today are brought about when parents do not accept the responsibilities of this covenant. It is contradictory to this covenant to prevent the birth of children if the parents are in good health."( April 1995 General Conference) |
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"It is the privilege of married couples who are able to bear children to provide mortal bodies for the spirit children of God, whom they are then responsible to nurture and rear. The decision as to how many children to have and when to have them is extremely intimate and private and should be left between the couple and the Lord. Church members should not judge one another in this matter." (Church Handbook of Instructions) |
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"It is the privilege of married couples who are able to bear children to provide mortal bodies for the spirit children of God, whom they are then responsible to nurture and rear. The decision as to how many children to have and when to have them is extremely intimate and private and should be left between the couple and the Lord. Church members should not judge one another in this matter." (Church Handbook of Instructions) |
QUOTE (Wes @ 9-Jul 09, 9:20 PM) |
El numero de hijos, depende de la capacidad general de cada pareja (y Dios). |