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Do we have the power to HEAL through the Priesthood or are we ALSO dependent on Doctors and Drugs? Controversial Mormon Issue.
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19th Sep, 2010 - 5:42pm / Post ID: #

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Where did I say that Farseer? You are reading too much into my post. What I am saying is that with religion in general there must exist a back up excuse when faith alone no longer works so the excuse of being the "will" of God comes to the picture.



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Post Date: 24th Jul, 2012 - 1:03am / Post ID: #

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Name: Taya
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Comments: First of all, I believe in miracles, and the priesthood can and does perform miracles.I am a miracle, I should not be alive today,nor should I be sitting here with my own liver, literally.I spent months in and out of the hospital fighting for my life. More than once during that time I was almost life flighted to another state for a liver transplant but somehow I pulled through and the transplant was cancelled.I was very sick, so sick that I was put at the top of the list for a transplant!that rarely happens, and even then the chances of finding a match were not very good.I fell into a coma and spent some time in the ICU where numerous doctors were fighting to save me. During this time of trial I received many priesthood blessings.. To many to count. I know without of doubt those blessings, among many prayers and fasting healed me. Yes the doctors, medicine, surgery , medical equipment ect. Played a critical role but even my doctor believes that the blessing my brothers and other priesthood holders gave me saved my life. I am a miracle. My point....priesthood can heal! What does this have to do with mental illness you are wondering..well, my husband suffers from mental illness and we have been married for almost 25 years. He has spent time in the mental wing of various hospitals, taken all kinds of meds gone to counseling ect. He has had many preisthood blessings over the years , but despite everything he stills suffers from this horrible disease. I am not going to get into specifics there has been to many trials related to his mental health, but some ask the question why didn't the priesthood blessing heal your husband? That is a good question. Even I don't have all the answers,I wish I did, I wish he was healed, that My children and I didn't have to deal with his illness and the daily trials that accompany it. But God has a plan for all of us, and I have to have faith that he knows what he is doing. I feel there has to be a reason my husband has this trial of mental illness. He has done everything medically possible, reached out to available sources seeking and receiving help, but still suffers greatly. My husband does understand faith,the purpose and healing powers the blessings have of priesthood blessings, but weather his faith is dwindling at times I do not know. I do however know that God is aware of him, his suffering and his trials, and has not forsaken him. He has a plan for him but only he knows what that plan is. So to address the subject at hand..does or can priesthood blessing heal mental illness...Yes. But that healing is individual, not everyone who desires a priesthood blessing of healing is going to be healed. I am very humble and grateful for my trial and for the fact that for some reason I was given a second chance at life. I do not meant to sound like I am bragging (lack of a better word), but for some reason I wasn't my time to go. I am very grateful for those who gave me priesthood blessings and that I am alive today. Those who surrounded me during those months when I was so sick saw the miracle of those blessings, and also of the the miracles the doctors and modern medicine. However,even those who did not believe in priesthood blessings can't deny the fact that somehow they are the reason I am here today! even my three children, the youngest 6 at he time believes. I hope this all made sense, My intention was not to preach, but share my story.

Post Date: 5th Sep, 2012 - 12:34pm / Post ID: #

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Religiously devout have better mental health

Scott Richards, professor of counseling psychology at Brigham Young University, said there are occasionally news reports about how members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints are more mentally unhealthy than other people. But, he has never seen evidence to support the claim. Ref. Source 6

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LDS blogger battles bipolar disorder by traveling the country, befriending strangers

Thompson, 25, spent 100 days from March to July getting to know complete strangers. Her journey became known as "The 444 Project." Ref. Source 5

Post Date: 9th Jan, 2014 - 4:57pm / Post ID: #

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This is such an important topic of discussion that does not have an easy or simple answer. I"m sorry for coming in late and for the long winded response. The bottom line from my perspective is that indeed we can within the limited parameters God allows and the limits of our own faith and power give mental health to those who need it

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(Mark 9:23, "if thou canst believe, all things are possible to him that believeth")
. Pandora's quotes from Elder Oaks are also relevant,
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"we must always remember that faith and the healing power of the priesthood cannot produce a result contrary to the will of Him whose priesthood it is"
although I do not believe we can or should assume that just because the process does not work like we want it to that it is not God's will, to that extent Liahona's word's should be taken into account, "For me, it seems almost like a "Back up excuse". If the blessing works, it's a miracle and if doesn't it's not the will of the Father." Elder Packer is fond of saying "we live beneath our privileges" as it relates to the priesthood. It is also true that the faith of those receiving blessings in some cases is important but certainly the only faith exercised in the raising from the dead of Lazarus or Jairus's" daughter was the faith of the Savior himself.

JB asked,
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"I must ask you though... Are there people with mental illnesses who are cured there and then by the power of the Priesthood? Can it happen? Do you know of instances where it has happened?"
Again if people receive their sight or can be raised from the dead and there are documented cases of this happening even in this dispensation after the time of Joseph Smith then I believe it is certain that mental health can also be restored. In a talk given by Elder Dallin H. Oaks in June 2001 entitled "Miracles" he has two quotes from Matthew Cowley:

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"In his great talk on miracles, Elder Matthew Cowley tells of several miraculous healings, including this one that occurred while he was serving as a mission president among the Maori people of New Zealand.
One Sunday a father brought a nine-month-old baby forward to Brother Cowley, requesting that he give him a name and a blessing. Here I quote Brother Cowley:
"I said, "All right, what's the name?" So he told me the name, and I was just going to start when he said, "By the way, give him his vision when you give him a name. He was born blind." It shocked me, but then I said to myself, why not? Christ said to his disciples when he left them, "Greater things than I have done shall you do." (See John 14:12.) I had faith in that father's faith. After I gave that child its name, I finally got around to giving it its vision. That boy is about twelve years old now. The last time I was back there I was afraid to inquire about him. I was sure he had gone blind again. That's the way my faith works sometimes. So I asked the branch president about him. And he said, "Brother Cowley, the worst thing you ever did was to bless that child to receive his vision. He's the meanest kid in the neighborhood; always getting into mischief." Boy, I was thrilled about that kid getting into mischief!""

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"I was called to a home in a little village in New Zealand one day. There the Relief Society sisters were preparing the body of one of our saints. They had placed his body in front of the big house, as they call it, the house where the people come to wail and weep and mourn over the dead, when in rushed the dead man's brother. He said, "Administer to him." And the young natives said, "Why, you shouldn't do that; he's dead." "You do it!" "¦
"The younger native got down on his knees and he anointed this man. Then this great old sage got down and blessed him and commanded him to rise. You should have seen the Relief Society sisters scatter. He sat up and said, "Send for the elders; I don't feel very well." "¦ We told him he had just been administered to, and he said, "Oh, that was it." He said, "I was dead. I could feel life coming back into me just like a blanket unrolling." He outlived the brother that came in and told us to administer to him.""

So from my perspective the real question is not whether God or the priesthood can do these things but can you or I can do it.

JB went on to say,
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"As you rightly said, it is up to the persons ministering to be clean vessels before the Lord, so with this we can summarize that more than usual it is a case of we not being worthy enough or having enough faith."

This statement I believe is the real key. We often assume that if we are generally living the commandments and if we believe for the most part in God and the priesthood that we should be able through the priesthood to heal those who seek to be healed. From my perspective we often significantly underestimate the depth of faith required to open the eyes of the blind, cause the lame to walk, raise the dead or cure mental illness. The faith to perform real miracles at least from my perspective is born in adversity. Like great muscles are achieved with great resistance great faith is produced in adversity. From my perspective it begins and ends in the extremities of our lives. It has been my experience that everyone who follows in the footsteps of the Master eventually finds that those footsteps lead inevitably, unerringly to Gethsemane. For each of us that experience will be different. For some it will be the death of a spouse or a parent or a child, for some it will be the infidelity of a spouse, parent or child, for some it will be the requirement to care for the infirmities of a spouse parent, spouse or child, for some it will be financial devastation, or physical impairment but for all those who seek to become like Him Gethsemane is inevitable. The Savior was required to descend below all things to learn how to succor His people and we will have to descend below some things if we are to be like Him. There is no other way. I believe that those experiences which like the Saviors own sacred experience are unjust and unfair are our best opportunities to produce the faith necessary to perform real miracles. Faith is a choice to believe, to trust, to obey and to serve when almost everything around us tells us not too. As Paul said of Abraham it is "hope against hope". It is living in a world where cynicism and skepticism are everywhere prevalent and still choosing to believe, to trust, to obey and to serve. It is seeing every hope and dream in your life shattered into a thousand little pieces and still choosing to believe, to trust, to obey and to serve. It is seeing every promise ever made to you spiritual or otherwise broken beyond repair and still choosing to believe, to trust, to obey and to serve. It is being so exhausted physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually that you don't know how you can get through another minute, let alone another hour or another day and still choosing to believe, to trust, to obey and to serve.
I think often of Abraham. As a young man he had two desires, to hold the priesthood and to be a dad. The first came relatively soon and he became a High priest but the second took a hundred years. Not just a hundred years but every minute of every hour of every day of a hundred years. Because Abraham was a righteous husband and priesthood holder I can picture him saying to himself I have the power to fix this. He even knew that it was God's will that he have a child. I believe he may have even given his wife Sarah priesthood blessings. I can even picture him in my mind commanding her body to be healed but things never changed. The time passed for her to be able to have children and still nothing. But in spite of all the evidence to the contrary he "hoped against hope" and finally the promise was fulfilled. Through that process Abraham developed so much faith that he believed God would raise Isaac from the dead when he was commanded to sacrifice him.
Some time ago I held a dead granddaughter in my arms. As I held her a thought, maybe even a prompting came to me that I had the power to bring her back. Her mother is not active in the church and her father is a non-member so the next thought that came to me was about the damage I would do if I failed. In the end I did not have the courage or faith to try, instead I walked away like a coward to make arrangements for her remains. I have been haunted by that experience and agonized over the many opportunities the Gethsemane's in my life have given me to develop the faith necessary for that moment had I chosen to believe, to trust, to obey and to serve rather than choosing to murmur and complain. Since then it has become my objective, maybe even my obsession to use every challenge no matter how difficult to develop sufficient faith so that if I am placed in a similar circumstance I will first of all be able to discern God's will and that I will have the faith and power to change the outcome. In the darkness of my life there are still moments when I crumble and murmur and complain but I am determined to believe, to trust, to obey and to serve.
JB said,
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"I am sometimes amazed by the vigor of some people to put all their emotion into wearing a beard for Sacrament or not, wearing a white shirt or not, bringing back Polygamy or not and yet one of the most important topics that shares the depths of the power of God on earth is left with not much input."
that statement is so true. We spend so much time in the church talking about things of so little value and the very first principle of the gospel is faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, Mormon 9:24,25
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"And these signs shall follow them that believe-in my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; they shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick and they shall recover; And whosoever shall believe in my name, doubting nothing, unto him will I confirm all my words, even unto the ends of the earth."


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Post Date: 12th Jan, 2014 - 9:14pm / Post ID: #

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Comments: The real issue I feel is the basis of this topic and might be what the [original poster] is hinting at is the fact that there aren't many examples of people having an instantaneous healing just like in the scriptures. Given that Heavenly Father may not grant every 'wish' we have for loved ones to be healed yet there should be many examples of this after a priesthood blessing, but I can honestly say I have never seen it except for cases where someone was upset, or had the cold. Mental illness is a whole other level of healing because its either you are cured or you aren't.

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Without a complete connection to God, one can make a mistake, and give a blessing, that may not benefit the person receiving it, that has already been suggested. The power of God is only wielded, if you know what the Lord wants, specially so, if healing, and more so, if a mountain or etc. Grand thing is to be moved; for most of us, we most likely will never be called to do such a think.

In my life, blessings have been of little value, what mental and physical health problems in my life, has come been corrected or lessened, have come by way of personal revelation to me, one on one. I have found that they come, not from total righteousness, but from being humble, willing to listen, and abide by the truth and light I have been given, and then of course being thankful, and sharing with others as called upon by the Spirit.

It teaches you to form a relationship with God the Father, not dependent on the Arm of Flesh; Brigham Young, feared that someday in the Church, the Saints would put so much faith and trust in their Leaders, they would loose the Spirit.

I have observed and felt spiritually, that we need to do what we can first, Spiritually. I find most times, if you follow the Spirit, you may not need a Priesthood blessing. It goes back to the fact, if you are not living by the Spirit, and not living the Word of Wisdom, to your best understanding, why should you except a blessing at the Lords hand. Most think, following the don'ts is sufficient, but in realty, the do's are far more important, and far more physically harmful and Spiritually numbing.

The Book of Mormon is full of warnings, about this fact, stated in the previous paragraph. It warns when the miracle have ceased, that they have strayed and lost their faith and way. We the personal connection with God, not the reflected light and faith of others. One should be able to feel the Holy Ghost 24/7, with every thought you think.

Light and knowledge flow like water in a pipe, the more you received it, the more the valve is opened, the less you receive it, the valve is slowly closed, and soon you may be at trickle or totally shut off. The Book of Mormon warns, that in the last days, the people won't even realize they are cut off and they and most of the Church in De Facto Apostasy. Most don't seem to realize, there will be a cleansing in the Church, to take out the Gentiles, and make way for the gather of the seed of those, who are in the Book of Mormon, and rightful heirs of this Promised land, and the Gospel. It appears the Lord will though some means, wipe out most, leaving the few lambs of God.

I find the Lord does not always take problems, trials, health issues and such away, but may provide away to continue and live with them; only he knows what is elemental for our progress and salvation and growth toward him.

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Do you think the Church and its leaders are prepared to recognize those members with mental illnesses? How we go about incorporating these special needs members in our meetings and activities?



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