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Post Date: 8th Aug, 2009 - 8:36pm / Post ID: #

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First, let me be clear that I'm posting this because I feel that what you did to me was unfair and disrespectful. Not trying to be agressive or disrespectful by any means, but merely expressing my discomfort in the way you treated me.

LDS, why did you delete my posts on GA's thread? I know it was off topic, but I've been trying to get the discussion back to the topic. You kept posting from Glenn's thread. If you pay attention to what I was saying, you'll find out that I didn't take it off topic, and it was me who was doing exactly that (trying to get back to the topic).
Why did you do this? I find it pretty rude. Why do you just keep what you say and delete what I said? I had a hard time undertanding your point.
You're asking me to answer your questions, which I had already done.
You're saying that I claim things I never did.
You're telling me where I stand in church.
I know you guys run this place, but, at least be fair.
LDS, you told me on another thread that you enjoy a good debate. You didn't show that, you just went and deleted my posts ending that like if I was the one out of line, when it was you who started off topic. I would totally agree with your corrective action and even appologize IF I would have started off topic.
I think what you did was disrespectful and unfair.

. . . But that's just me thinking. I may be out of line again. So, It wouldn't surprise me if this is deleted too.

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I know it was off topic, but...

You say you know then add "but" which means you feel you should override our moderation? I do not want to make this a long drawn out affair. I will refer you to our Policy once again which you have chosen not to acknowledge (by the way, feel free to be offended):

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No matter what the message is or what board you are on (well maybe except for the Jokes board to some degree) you should always follow these guidelines:

1. Keep on the subject of the thread. You can know what the subject is by looking at the first message in the thread. Do not jump into a message unless you know all the facts stated by everyone in that topic or you will look foolish in trying to cover something that has already been discussed.

2. If you must say something not in relation with the subject of the thread then use the Offtopic Tags. However, this does NOT mean you can post a message totally in the off topic, and off topic message should be a SMALL part only of a CONTINUING Discussion.
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1. You are offended because you broke a rule and a Mod or Bot corrected you.
Why? If you break the law do you expect the police to just let it go? The same applies here. You were thoroughly warned BEFORE joining that we rigidly enforce our rules. Also, be grateful that someone is willing to correct your mistakes, from this we grow. Right?

4. You are offended because you do not like the way we run things around here.
Oh, that one is simple... 'Delete Membership'. You will find that option in your Control Panel. No, it is not that we do not care about you or your feelings, but it is just simply... This is not the place for you. We are not going to change the rules or stop enforcing them so let us level... Maybe the Lite forum is your cup of herbal tea?

Now, I would like to state that if anyone breaks any of our rules or policies then that is an offense. We are professionals so we do not have time to stop and feel our heart break over it. The way we deal with the offender is based on the level of the offense. It can range from a simple warning to outright deletion and even follow-up with your ISP if you are a real predator. Of course the latter is only used for those who are spammers and / or seeking illegal activity.

Second, once everyone keeps within the rules of this community it is impossible to be offended unless you are overly sensitive. If you are overly sensitive then you may wish to evaluate your purposes for being here. Why? Well what do you expect? Should everyone just accept what you have to say? Should everyone just agree? It would be folly to think so as we live in a real world with various opinions. Some users can be very blunt, but that is their way, it is their opinion, so long as they are not directly calling you names, making fun of you or being sarcastic then just leave it alone. It is always helpful to state "In my opinion..." as no one can really argue with that. Another thing that is ironic, if something is sensitive to you then why post it or reply to it in a public community? You must understand that when a user replies to a message and disagrees with your perspective then 99% of the time they are usually disagreeing with your 'take' on the subject matter and not 'you', the person - members often mix this up.

Third, if you feel something has offended you, but it did not break the rules then rather than bottle it all up inside simply express your feelings in a constructive manner as to why you are offended. Members are not mind readers and what may be offensive to you may seem very far from that to someone else. Again, this is not an LDS, RPG, Trinidad, Muslim, Catholic or other community, it is an International Community - we all think differently, we all grew up with a view point that may appear to be very strange compared to the other person's view, etc. Hence we have the rules we do... They keep the peace and they enable everyone to enjoy themselves without feeling intimidated. However, again, I must emphasize... If you feel offended often, you are in disagreement with how we run things or you just do not like the colors we use then simply 'Delete Membership'. After all we do not want unhappy people here, why be in a place that makes you feel uncomfortable?

Fourth, now this one goes out to those of you that are cheeky or lack the empathy necessary to discuss things in an International setting. First of all it is a good thing you do not negotiate for arms control on behalf of your country, because surely you would do a terrible job and may even initiate war. Come on... Before you post, take a breath, walk around the room and ask yourself, is what I am about to type offensive? Even if you think it is not, could it be taken that way? Why not try explaining yourself in detail rather than giving a half hearted reply that may cause ill feelings?

Fifth, this is all free, keep that in mind and think about it.


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Post Date: 8th Aug, 2009 - 9:46pm / Post ID: #

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No. It's OK if I would have broken the rule. But it was a Moderator who started off topic. That is my problem. If you are fair, then delete her's too. Why just mine?
Did you read what I said after the "but" you're referring to?
I was trying to bring the discusison back to the topic! Something that the moderator should have done, not me. That is my problem. I get corrected for trying to comply and the moderator that is breaking the rule is who corrects me. How is that fair?

Reconcile Edited: Wes on 8th Aug, 2009 - 9:51pm

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You need to read very carefully what I posted above, especially #4, as it answers all your questions, there is no need to keep repeating yourself.

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Post Date: 9th Aug, 2009 - 1:50am / Post ID: #

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Trust me JB. I've read them as carefully as I am capable of. Nowhere in the material you provided is stated that a moderator can correct you for complying with your rules.
Can you point it out to me? . . . Or just delete my post . . .

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Oh, that one is simple... 'Delete Membership'.
Is that how you address issues here?
Well, I surely won't delete it. (You're welcome to do it for me)
Don't get me wrong now. This is a good site, I enjoy being here. It's just the way I was treated was not fair, and I stand for myself and for what is right.
No need to reply . . . Or do, (it's your site) wink.gif

Reconcile Edited: Wes on 9th Aug, 2009 - 2:04am

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Your last post (Preparedness) was deleted for not being constructive, based on the following:

Religious based Posts should not be made outside of Religion Boards.

Please review our: Constructive Posting Policy.

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