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I do understand where you're coming from. Where I live, however, it would be impossible to know someone for years without them knowing my religion and if they knew my religion they would already know that I don't drink. It's common knowledge here...everyone knows that Mormons don't drink and Nazarenes don't dance. Most likely, a true friend who knew me and understood my standards and values would probably ask me if it would bother me if they drank and then offer to pay for it. At that point, I would reassure them that their drinking didn't bother me and, no, I don't mind paying for it.

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Johnny:

I think a true friend who *really* understand your beliefs and convictions (assuming yours are very strong) will surely ask those questions because they know how you feel, then if they (knowing your religious convictions) have offered to pay for their own alcoholic drinks (as your example shows) why would you tell them afterwards that you don't mind paying for it? They already offered to do it and is your opportunity to not have to pay for something that goes against your beliefs.

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The original situation JB gave was set up this way:

If I'd already offered to pay for it, I wouldn't take that back just because my friend wanted to get a beer. I offered to pay...I would pay. I don't feel that's a comprimise of my beliefs. I covenant to keep the Word of Wisdom and that is to not drink alcohol. I am not breaking that covenant by buying some for someone for whom drinking or not drinking is not a moral issue.

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Johnny, I agree with you. My reply though was in connection with your previous post and not with JB's original question(your previous post about a friend of yours knowing your religious convictions asks if you don't mind he drinks and then offers to pay for the drink and then you said you would reply by saying that you would tell them that you don't mind them drinking and you don't mind paying for it even though they offered to pay for it).

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To be bluntly honest, it would depend on how deep the friendship went. My closest non-member friends wouldn't expect me to pay for a beer and thus wouldn't order one. If they did order one, we'd probably have a nice fight over who was paying for it .

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I see no moral compromise on my part in paying for a beer someone else chooses to drink as part of a meal, friend or not. Even if a friend offered to pay for the beer alone, I would say no, I will pay for the entire meal. I don't see the problem, as long as I don't drink the beer myself. I wouldn't pay the cigs, though, because that is not a part of the meal. (I know some smokers would disagree.) If someone ordered a pack of cigarettes as part of a meal, I would think they are taking advantage of a generous offer and are trying to get something for free. I would be unobtrusive about it, though. When the check came I would say, "Please put the cigarettes on a separate check."

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A man is no better or worse in keeping his words. If a man tells his friend that he's buying dinner and his friend orders beer, this man is binded by his word for buying his friends beer. I would buy his beer also, so my word would be untarnished. If he understands my religious beliefs he probably wouldn't order the beer.

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That would be funny/awkward. I could imagine some people doing that. I would have before I figured it out. I was as anal as they get. hehehe

Always good points, Dbackers. If I were going to lunch with a vegan who told me I'll pay for your lunch if you don't buy meat, I would say "that's nice of you, But I would like to pick up your tab this time." I might buy something with meat just to emphasize the point. If I were with a Mormon, who told someone else in the group that, I might say, "Don't worry Sam, I'll cover it for you."

A gift isn't much of a gift with strings attached...

We're thinking the same thing here...

I might go a little further than the rest of you. I have bought beers for others and also cigarettes. I knew at the time my strict past perception wouldn't have allowed me to do this. I would buy a beer for a less active member if they wanted and I was paying.

One thing I noticed my past self say when looking at bums on the street is, I won't give them money because they will blow it on booze and smokes. Would you loan your neighbor $50 for groceries? Would you give them a list of the groceries they could buy with the money you gave them? I don't do sugar or milk products, (generally). Should I never buy such products for others? When I give fast offerings I am most certain it goes to buying products with sugar and milk.

So, you loan or give money to your neighbors and they buy something you wouldn't buy with it. Do you harbor ill feeling toward them? Do you loan them money next time? Do you give with strings attached?