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It is not so simple Vincenzo. I suppose you are saying that because is not directly affecting you...the thing is he has been doing this for a very long time not only with race but with religion as well. Just because he got away with it all these times does not make his comments any better and probably this was the last straw. It's time for him to go. Why would US citizens want to have a guy making racist remarks and getting paid for that?

The NBC move is not going to really affect him because his main employer is CBS and they already said they plan to give him a two week suspension and closely monitored the situation.

I read his apology and explanation but I have the impression he does not fully grasp the seriousness of what he said.

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"Mr. Imus Has Stolen a Moment of Pure Grace For Us" - Rutgers Women's Basketball Team Condemn Don Imus's Remarks

MSNBC and CBS Radio are coming under increasing pressure to fire Don Imus over his recent remarks about the Rutgers women's basketball team calling them "nappy-headed hos." Imus has suspended for two weeks beginning on Monday but he remains on the air this week. On Tuesday members of the Rutgers women's basketball team spoke out for the first time. We play excerpts.
Ref. democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=07/04/11/1432228

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No, I actually am saying it is that simple. When I have been offended by comments made on a show that I was listening to, I turned the channel. At one time, I used to listen to Howard Stern, but I got offended and stopped. It truly was that easy. If everyone was as equally offended, then he would not be on the air, as no sponsor would touch his show and there would be no listeners. That is what I would say to the listeners...don't listen to things that offend you and dont buy their sponsors products and you will get your desires in the end.

There are obviously people that like Imus. I am not one of them as I have never seen him as remotely funny or actually shocking for that matter. I know he has made fun of religion and that is why I mentioned is recent calling for Mecca to be bombed into oblivion on the air. No one heard about it and there wasn't even a mention of it on this website...why? For many in the country, this is the first that they have ever heard of this guy and will be the last once the flack from this situation is over. Actually, I am sure that nearly everyone offended had to be told or read that he said this because they certainly weren't tuned into his broadcast (they just aren't in his demographic).

Eddie Murphy, when on Saturday Night Live in '81, did a skit as a black hustler called Velvet Jones. During his skit, he fostered a book called "I Wanna be a HO" and pitched it on air. All he heard was laughter...but then again...he is black. Actually, at the time he was considered enlightened because he brought black street culture to the screen. He also gave us the Ghetto version of Mr Rogers (childrens show) Neighborhood called Mr Robinson's Neighborhood where there were shootings and kids were encouraged to call their mothers femalees, but then again, that is enlightenment and there is a fine line between enlightenment and being offensive. I mention this in particular because of the use of the word ho. I along with millions of others thought his skit was funny, but it was racism and no one complained.

I said in the first post that the his employer is free to do as they please with him as they are in business to make money and he has damaged his show significantly enough that that may not be possible for the immediate future. If his show is losing money, then it is more of a public service on the part of the company and I dont think his commentary is what CBS is looking for as their donation to public service. The people have pressured the sponsors who have in turn pressured the broadcast company and the result is that he has been cancelled on MSNBC. The system works.

Imus is going to be off the air because his sponsors are bailing on him and his employers arent into charity and that is quite alright in my book. However, unless you are a large enough minority that has significant buying power, you will not enjoy this ability to silence people. So bombing Mecca will be fine, but bombing Harlem will cost you your job. Soon the smaller groups are going to want the same result with out the power and will emplore the FCC to do something and that is where this becomes wrong in my book.

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Very good and valid points Vincenzo. I suppose it boils down to double standards Don't some of the same African American community call each other the "N" word but is not okay if a White person says it? We do not have to go as far as Radio Announcers, the hip-hop and rap culture is full of these type of racial slurs and how much it sells? Plenty. Now for those who buy this kind of stuff and consume it, then I do not feel sorry for them but I do feel it for those who do not and they have to deal with this ugly stereotypes in the US.

I am not Black or African American but I know that a lot of them who do not listen to guys like Imus neither hip-hop or any sort of that music are affected by the "nappy-headed ho" stereotype that causes other people who do like Imus to make racial slurs towards them (because it does happen). As a Hispanic in the US, it happened to me several times...I can't imagine how much they go through as Blacks in the USA. So, one way or another they are indeed affected by it even if they choose not to listen to guys like him.

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Well, now he is doomed. CBS fired him.

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It is so interesting the statement given by CBS This guy have been saying nasty stuff for years, CBS radio shows play hip-hop and rap music and all of the sudden they are really concerned about these women? Please! They are worried about their sponsors!

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I totally understand and with the snowball that was building up behind this expected the radio show to go the same direction the TV show went. Again, I support CBS's right to make money, so I have no argument with them. However, what my major concern was about the decision was confirmed for me today in a headline...

This means involving the FCC and this is just wrong. While there are a lot of laws that limit freedom of speech, we do not need any more and the FCC should not be involved in this issue. The people have spoken with their money and the result was what the majority wanted...his show is gone. If there are other shows you don't like, do the same thing to them, but what we do not need is a broad discussion on what is permitted and not permitted on the airwaves. The system worked so leave it alone.

I will enjoy (and it will happen) the next time that Sharpton and Jackson are rubbing palms and supporting some of todays rap artist. Turn on a radio and find you nearest hip hop station and it is hos, sluts and rape galore all at the touch of a dial. Love to hear the Reverends tell Snoop Dogg that he is no longer allowed to make CD's and trust me, I wont be the only one that sees the irony. The same group (mass media) that orchestrated this lynching will point this out as well.

Another thing that interest me in this is the exchange that occurred when Imus said "nappy headed hos". Mr McGurk just prior to Imus (and actually the instigator of the whole ho discussion) has remained out of the spotlight for his preceeding comment "some hardcore hos". So tell me again that they weren't going after Imus, it was just the offensive comment. Apparently, "hardcore ho" is good and "nappy headed ho" is absolutely unforgiveable.

Edited: Vincenzo on 13th Apr, 2007 - 1:13am

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Vincenzo, you are right and I actually thought about Mc Gurk which was his radio show producer, not so? I suppose the difference is that Imus has a history of these type of comments, I am not so sure about Mc Gurk. It doesn't make it right obviously but seems like everybody forgot about him (and I do not even recall if he apologized).

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LDS, I think you are correct. McGurk is the producer and member of the show. The Imus show had like 3 members total. They all said things like this routinely and no I have not seen a McGurk is sorry quote anywhere. However, others are capitalizing on the debacle...

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You can not get "Nappy Headed Ho" merchandise. Just in time for summer!

https://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,...09490-2,00.html

Even in this Time article, which is really good, they didn't get the exchange correctly and attributed the entire conversation to Imus. He got credit for "hardcore hos" and "nappy headed hos". Again, the article is pretty good about discussing the strange blurry standard of what is and isn't acceptable to say.