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Comments: I would like to add an opinion which is significantly lacking on this thread.

16 years ago I was in a terrible car accident and lost my sister as well as damaged my spine beyond repair. Until recently my only options were to live with agonizing pain or swallow a few Doctor PRESCRIBED pills. I consulted my bishop and was given the advice I needed and went into pain management. Starting with Oxycontin for management and Percocet for flare-ups. Years passed and dosages increased, before I knew it I had a medically/religiously sanctioned addiction. One that I HAD to check into a clinic for. My liver was going to fail, cholesterol was out of control, lungs functioning at 40%, career was slipping away, and health on a dangerous spiral downward.

I kicked the addiction but the pain was more intense than ever, due to the significant damage to my brain's serotonin receptors (another horrific side effect of prescribed opiates) For those who don't know, opiates can and will, with long enough use, impair one's ability to experience joy, excitement, and, in my opinion, the spirit. Keeping in mind this was all perfectly OK according to the church as I had my recommend the entire time.

Thankfully God has answered my prayers and given me another option, Marijuana. It truly is my Godsend. My quality of life is exponentially better than it has been for a good bit of my time here on Earth. I was definitely skeptical at first, like many of you I had been raised to believe that marijuana was to be avoided like the plague. Like many of you I believed that it belonged in the category of "dangerous" drug such as: cocaine, heroin, meth, etc... Like many of you I believed that those pushing for legalization were just looking for a high.

I can now, with great confidence, tell you all that Marijuana is a lifesaver and that denying it to people is far from church doctrine. I understand that it is illegal in most areas, however, it is my right to a certain quality of life and if I chose to ingest a naturally occurring herb to alleviate symptoms instead of swallowing a pill, no government or organization is going to change my opinion. I have been through hell and met the devil and it had NOTHING to do with marijuana.

I humbly urge ANYONE, who has the option, to chose marijuana over ANY form of opiate, sleeping pill, or nerve medication. At least see if it works for you. The destruction caused by those FDA approved, doctor prescribed, and church sanctioned medications is leaps and bounds greater than ANY case of marijuana use. I have a quality of life some might call "normal", considering the situation, it really is a miracle. I defy any of you to argue that. Judge me if you want, but I KNOW the truth and it's not from the government or popular opinion. I am happy to say, despite being a lowly "pothead" I maintain a productively happy life centered around Christ and my priesthood duties. I might be your Quorum leader or Bishop and you'll never know.

One of the wonderful things about our church, is that we have free-agency.

It is my testimony that, although we should adhere to the law of the land as much as possible, God's law supersedes ALL. God says herbs were put here for human use, in moderation, to improve our quality of life.

First, marijuana IS in fact an herb. Literally.
Second, In moderation, marijuana significantly improves many thousands of people's quality of life.

These are the facts. The scriptures say so.

Another wonderful thing about our religion is that the only people that know anything about each individual's spiritual well-being is God, your bishop, and you. Come around my house each evening and you might see me and my beautiful wife sitting on the porch eating our delicious hash brownies, and on Sunday you'll see me reading, pondering, and praying. Does that mean I'm breaking the Word of Wisdom? NOPE Because... I am honest with myself and God, I use this "dangerous" plant within the boundaries of the scriptures and within the parameters set by my doctors. Nobody can change that. You may think it's wrong but it's what works for me and it doesn't change my stance in the church or state. I feel bad for those who are so closed minded that they can't see the truth. It is truly sad that this thread is so long.

Most of you are looking for a church leader to tell you it's "OK" or "not OK" when the scriptures teach us that we need to figure these things out for ourselves. I would urge everyone to fast and pray, but also to study and research reliable sources for your information. Rather than relying on the government or church to give you an opinion. We are taught that man is fallible and God is perfect
God's word or Government... Which do you trust more?

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Honestly, I think it's wonderful that you can have this kind of relief in your life. In this instance and many like it, if it works, people should be able to have access to it for medical purposes. That doesn't make you a pothead. I know how dangerous oxycontin is, because I've seen it in family members and friends families.

My problem is with those who have no medical problem and just want to get high, and then try to justify to the world that there's nothing wrong with it because it's an herb for man to use moderately and it doesn't interfere with how they function on a day-to-day basis. Yada yada yada.

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Name: CoolMichael
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Comments: I feel impressed to add that I take great joy in growing and supplying my own "medication". Being self-sustaining is a major principle in church doctrine. Growing marijuana is as spiritual an experience as any other gospel-related activity.

I am also annoyed by those who fake illness and abuse the law in order to get high. However, it is not my place to judge. It isn't our position in life to decide whether or not others are using it for the right reasons. That is between the individual and God. We really should just let the doctors do their jobs and weed out the riff-raff and those that slip through the cracks will be judged by God. If Jesus were with us today, I believe he would vote for the use of mm, and wouldn't tag people as "faker".

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What I find most amazing about this largely opinionated Topic are the number of Guests who respond to it with their own perceived 'facts' while saying they are also Doctrinally inclined and 'regular' Mormons yet all they seek to do when they come here is to defend Marijuana use and not say anything else in the hundreds of other Threads on actual Doctrine we have here.

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CoolMichael I have to ask...were you smoking pot when you wrote that? I mean is disturbing to say the least! What marijuana has to do with the spirit and the gospel? You have to be kidding....

I have no problem with those who use the herb for medical reasons however doesn't mean now that these same people should go around preaching the gospel according to marijuana, encouraging others to use it and even make some sort of sick spiritual connection you know what am I saying?

It works for you? Great! Now don't make a spiritual connection where there is none please, its sacrilegious brother.

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I've created a profile, as if that makes my points any more valid.

I will fight for and advocate MM use as long as I live. I cannot understand why people somehow justify in their minds ignoring what D&C says about the use of herbs, in moderation, to enhance the quality of life. It is, in every sense of the word, CHURCH DOCTRINE.

That's not my opinion, it IS oddly enough, a fact.

I also don't understand how people can justify prescription heroin, yet, take every chance they get to bash marijuana.

Another FACT, opiates kill.

* Six States participate in the mortality component of the Drug Abuse Warning Network: Maine, Maryland, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Utah, and Vermont. The rates of opiate-related drug misuse deaths in 2003 ranged from 7.2 per 100,000 population in New Hampshire to 11.6 per 100,000 population in New Mexico. In each of these 6 States, most opiate-related drug misuse deaths involved multiple drugs.

* Three opiate pain medications as a group (oxycodone, hydrocodone, and methadone) were involved in 40% or more of the opiate misuse deaths in these States. The involvement of oxycodone ranged from 13% in New Mexico to 30% in Vermont; hydrocodone ranged from 3% in Maryland to 17% in Utah; and methadone ranged from 17% in New Mexico to 46% in Maine.

and Last, Marijuana has a total of ZERO kills. Google it.

I care so much about the subject because I have been so profoundly affected by this whole conversation. Currently accepted pain treatments have almost destroyed my life. I will defend marijuana, I would be willing to go to jail for it. That's no exaggeration. It has literally saved my life, and made me a substantially better person.

These are all FACTS. Prove otherwise, you know, with facts.

I would also like like to add... About connecting growing pot with spiritual things wouldn't necessarily apply to all, however, when you have very literally been saved by a plant that you can grow in your garden, it does become a very rewarding, spiritual experience. In what way is that sacrilegious? Growing and using the herbs that God ordained for our use to treat pain and calling it a "spiritual experience"... Not sacrilegious.

Farmers have described what they do much the same way. They are not called sacrilegious.

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No it doesn't. It all comes down to just simply being your opinion.

OK so you join the Community to repeat yourself and further prove my point about focusing only on one thing - that you think marijuana should be used for medical reasons. Alright, we got that point, what else do you have to offer or are you planning to beat this Topic into the ground until we each have a Marijuana plant growing in our back yard and in a pot next to the kitchen sink?

The amazing thing about the Word of Wisdom is actually this... You treat yourself right by eating well - staying away from commercialized franken foods, eating little to no meat, walking away from all you can eat buffets and exercising and you will not need any medicinal herbs / drugs / pills or surgery or even the beloved Marijuana that some seem to be on the verge of adoration for because the body is its own natural healer.

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I posted my story awhile back and was met with Suzie and left. Don't know why I'm back. But I feel a little lost when it comes to the church and pot. I mean, as far as my priesthood level goes I've been ordained a priest.. That's when I got my pat blessing. That's when I started smoking. I'm 20 now, bout to turn 21 and still haven't served a mission. Haven't really been into the church a whole lot either. I've stopped smoking off and on through the times.. I've been clean off and on. But lately I've been down.. I mean really down. And I jumped back on the wagon. I've been told I have a strong tesimony of Joseph Smith, Jesus Christ, the Book of Mormon, and declared of the tribe Judah. While depressed.. I smoked a marijuana cigar. Then I picked up my scriptures and flipped to the D&C. Is that wrong to do? I figured if you smoked pot you can't hold the priesthood.. But if you eat hash brownies you can?