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Reading The Quran - Page 6

In the book of Hijr the claim is made again and again that, "We sent the message, but it was rejected and the apostles were mocked." Then the ways that, "We" have provided, "means of subsistence" are described. After that 15:26 says,

And of course, as in every book so far, hell and heaven must be promised.

Most of the last verses are dedicated to the almost unrecognizable story of Lot and the destruction of Sodom and Gomorah.

I found no teaching of hatred, or killing in this book of the Quran

Edited: mousetrails on 15th Aug, 2007 - 6:38am

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I see many instances of violence in the Koran (and the Bible, mind you), including:

* Exhorting terrorism by beheadings and cutting off fingers (I am with you: give firmness to the Believers: I will instill terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers: smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger-tips off them.)

* Statement that fighting is good (Fighting is prescribed for you, and ye dislike it. But it is possible that ye dislike a thing which is good for you, and that ye love a thing which is bad for you. But God knoweth, and ye know not.)

* Kill unbelievers (And fight [unbelievers] on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in God altogether and everywhere; but if they cease, verily God doth see all that they do.)

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Tortdog, I am certainly more aware than most people of the violence in the Christian Bible. I spent 14 years researching and writing a book about it, but to this point I am not aware of that same violence in the Quran. I have heard all kinds of things, but I am still reading and withholding judgement until I find that violence. Please read the last line I write after every post. I'll repeat it for you here and continue to use it until I find something different than what I have read so far.

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Tonight I made a decision to change my procedure for reading and comment. I will still read word for word every book, but since there are still almost 100 books to read and since most books of the Quran seem to be a copy of the one before it, my comments would be as repetitive as the Quran. The only time I will comment is if something new, or different comes to light. Such as the following from the book of Nahl.

I went back three times and re-read the text because it came from nowhere. It is like it was taken totally out of context. It doesn't fit in with the message in the book of Nahl at all.

Is there a Muslim that can shed some light on these passages?

I found no teaching of hatred, or killing in this book of the Quran

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I'm curious as to where you are in your reading of the Koran.

Also, I assume that when you get to the part that suggests beheadings and cutting off fingers is a good idea, that you would see that as somewhat violent. True?

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Tortdog, I was given a very good website on the Quran and I assume the books are in order. In each post I give the book I have just read. My last read was the book of Nahl.
Am I going to report violence and orders of violence? You haven't read Mousetrails yet have you? I am going to report exactly what I find without exaggerating, or attempting to blow anything out of proportion. I sincerely hope the Quran is what I have been told, a book of peace. But since Allah and God are one and the same, and there is so much violence in the religious world, I have my doubts.

Edited: mousetrails on 16th Aug, 2007 - 9:08pm

Reading Quran - Page 6

When is the last time you heard any Christian, Hindu or Jewish leader call for the beheading of non-believers?

Edited: tortdog on 16th Aug, 2007 - 9:54pm

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Tortdog, I never have, but the God of the Jews was a war God and ordered genocide many, many, times.

I have no doubt I will get into blood and guts in the Quran, but it will be when I find it in context, not before.