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Is Cain Bigfoot?

Is Cain Bigfoot?

I searched to insure this topic has not been covered and see only bits and pieces mentioned thus I will start us off with some historical background to build a foundation from.

Genesis (4:1-17) presents a brief account of the brothers. This passage, in the Bible, at the crux of the story of Cain and Abel reads:

- Genesis 4:3-8

The story continues with God approaching Cain asking about Abel's whereabouts. In a response that has become a well-known saying, Cain answers, "Am I my brother's keeper?"

Finally, seeing through Cain's deception, as

We have a total of 5 individuals roaming the Earth's surface not tasting of a physical death as we know it, 3 Nephites, John, and as mentioned, Cain.

Thousands of years later we continue:

David W. Patten was an Apostle of the church serving under the Prophet Jospeh Smith himself gives an account of seeing Cain as a man covered with dense hair as he rode a horse returning home from one of his many missions for the church. Their brief conversation was this:

This account by The Apostle and a subsiquent one from A.O. Smoot on the same incident lend to its credibility.

We have yet another, less credible story relating to Cain and these latter days from an LDS individual living in the 1940's-50's in the state of Montana. While fishing a man covered in dense hair came down from a wooded area and asked what time it was. When told the time of day, he then asked, specifcally the year. Once he received an answer, he went back into the wooded area.

My interest in this subject was kick-started by a very good documentary on the Discovery Channel 6 months ago where scientists debated the plausibility of a Bigfoot type creature existing in the United States. In the end , the panel was split with the majority discounting all Bigfoot claims. Subsiquent searches brought to lilght the Apostle's account of his interaction with Cain, and more importantly Cain's Bigfoot-like appearance.

Further reading took me to an interesting book entitled The Clan of Cain by Shane Lester. I purchased the soft cover from Amazon. It details a ficticious story based on the Patten story and it's impact on a graduate student from the U of U stationed with a research team who has discovered a wounded 'Bigfoot'. The book has a very interesting and thought-provoking ending dealing with those who attempt to fid and kill Cain in these modern times. I recommend it. Light reading yet fantasticly interesting topic.

This topic beings about some additional questions:

1. We know Cain Worshiped Satan more than God and thus it makes sence his job now would be the demise of humanity, much like the 1/3 hosts of heaven that were cast down from the preexistence. My question is HOW does Cain go about this task?

2. What did God do to these 5 individual's bodies so that they do not age?

3. If Cain is not the foundation of the bigfoot myth, what is?

Food for thought.

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Bigfoot Cain Is

Hyperwrx, interesting points. I am personally a bit skeptical to believe Cain is some type of Big Foot based only in the Scriptures. There is no mention of the "sign" God put upon him and as I agree we should think about the experiences of these Apostles, let's not forget that Bruce R. Mc Conkie also an Apostle, stated (to my disagreement) that the sign put upon him was the "dark skin and the flat nose" making reference to the Black race.

I am not sure what you are exactly asking. We know Cain rules over Satan as the Son of Perdition so I assume he is in constant communication with him as to what to do to continue destroying the souls of men. Seeing how evil the world has become, they seem to be doing a pretty good job.

Only God knows.

Since the Scriptures make no mention on what the "sign" really is, it can be anything really, don't you think?

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I understand the mark God put on Cain was to insure he would not be killed while he remained on the Earth. A 'black skin and flat nose' mark wouldn't distinguish him from many and surely wouldn't keep people from killing him.

Bigfoot Cain Is

It is really possible that big foot is Cain? Why? Well after 6,000 years of not shaving as well as taking a bath, well you too would be hairy as well as having big feet. (smelly ones too).

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I'm going to be the sceptic here. I discussed this with other members of the church. Even though Cain was given a curse to wonder the earth there is a book called the Book of Jasher gives an account of the death of Cain.

If this is accurate then Cain and Bigfoot are not one and the same. I believe that when David W. Patten ran into Cain it was simply his spirit.

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Is Cain Bigfoot?

If we believe the Book of Jasher concerning this event (which I address below) how would Cain's spirit be found 1000's of miles and years away from where his physical body was slain?

Can we use the Book of Jasher as a viable source to weigh these type of mysteries?

When Cain was cursed by God to wander the Earth until his second coming- I think exactly that will transpire. The Cain/Bigfoot Theory, because we do not have any prophets or apostles aside from one), weighing in on it, is tough to expound upon.

Rather off topic, but... I enjoy reading revelations, visions, and books claiming to be inspired by God not from LDS prophets and apostles. As a rule of thumb, I don't allow them to solve LDS doctrinal questions. Some of these works are tough to ignore, such as Bishop Koyle's dreams and premonitions. I am left to think- many prophesies from these individuals come true. With that in mind, I think to myself- If these revelations are not of God, who are they from? For me, that questions is easily answered.

Edited: Hyperwrx on 2nd Jul, 2007 - 10:32pm

Is Cain Bigfoot

I have studied the Doctrine of this Gospel quite intensively and don't recall this quote. Where did you find this? Please I need a sourse for this one.

Rather off topic, but... I too enjoy reading Apocryphal Writings, but we can not dismiss something because it isn't in our standard works. There are many books out there that carry the spirit with them. We must read of the best of books as it states in D&C. I do not disqualify any book least it be of God and is a true witness.

If we believe the Book of Jasher concerning this event (which I address below) how would Cain's spirit be found 1000's of miles and years away from where his physical body was slain? He is left to wonder the earth a vagabond

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There is only 3 reference I know of to when the Apostle David W. Patten (1799-1838) spoke with "Cain". I reference that because Cain himself said, "I have no home. I am a wanderer in the earth and travel to and fro. I am misery, a creature without santuary."

1. A detailed account of the conversation can be found in the book THE LIFE OF DAVID W. PATTEN, By L.A. Wilson, p.46, 47.

2. Pres. Kimball related the event in The Miricle of Forgiveness:

3. David Patten related the event to a friend, A.O. Smoot who put them in his journal.

I hunted through the Standard Wroks, nothing relating to him living past a normal lifespan.