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Post Date: 23rd Oct, 2007 - 2:21pm / Post ID: #

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I've also heard about this whole Cain could be Bigfoot but also there is sightings of Bigfoot all over the world there is the "Yeti" (also same look as Bigfoot a creature that is big and hairy) also we have the great an abominable snow man (again same thing big hairy monster half man half beast). Plus Cain was cursed with a mark for the first murder in the history of man, if he wasn't cursed to roam the earth until the 2nd coming then to be honest guys not much of a curse is it? He wold only look different? However cursed to roam the earth in misery and being alone always and hunted from man always then that is more of what a curse is. The 3 Nephites and John the apostle are translated and the devil hath no power over them. They cannot feel depression or misery they are fully about the work! No danger can harm them. They have clear consciences with God which must be the best feeling in the world to have but Cain does not have this. There is no 100% doctrine that he is alive today on the earth but I it wouldn't shock me if the LOrd was to reveal that? Would it shock anyone, to be honest?

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23rd Oct, 2007 - 5:32pm / Post ID: #

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QUOTE (truthprevail @ 23-Oct 07, 6:21 AM)
Plus Cain was cursed with a mark for the first murder in the history of man, if he wasn't cursed to roam the earth until the 2nd coming then to be honest guys not much of a curse is it?

In my opinion this is one of the main points in this debate--
We don't know if Cain was only cursed until the flood or until the 2nd coming. We also do not understand (at least I don't *smile*) what all that curse involved. If the Lord says he cursed Cain, I have no doubt it was sufficient. What do you think?



23rd Oct, 2007 - 9:40pm / Post ID: #

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First I feel that the idea that Cain is bigfoot and is doomed to be chased by man is unbiblical. The curse states that the ground will not bear fruit for him and that he will be a restless wonderer of the earth. However a few verses later we read that Cain is married, has children and builds a city. The first city mentioned in the Bible. It is also the first civilization mentioned in the bible. So it is clear that he lived with people, and founded civilization or Babylon. Nothing is said of him living forever, or being hairy. The Curse or mark that is given to him in Genesis in Hebrew means for of a physical mark, or more on the lines of a tattoo or branding. Not large amounts of hair or skin color. After this there is no more biblical account of Cain. He is no longer important to the Myth or account.



Post Date: 23rd Oct, 2007 - 9:54pm / Post ID: #

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It makes me laugh how sure someone can be of something he interprets in the Bible. It means this, it means that... laugh.gif. The spirit is not bearing witness to Cains being or not being Bigfoot.

I introduced this 'theory' as it was an interesting basis to the fictional book I read. You can thumb your nose to the theory but remember we have a Prophet of God cite the Apostle's account in a book the vast majority of you guys have sitting on your shelf.

Nobody knows for certain regardless of how valid you present your argument here.

23rd Oct, 2007 - 11:27pm / Post ID: #

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QUOTE (Hyperwrx @ 23-Oct 07, 5:54 PM)
You can thumb your nose to the theory but remember we have a Prophet of God cite the Apostle's account in a book the vast majority of you guys have sitting on your shelf.


In my opinion, just because a Prophet mentioned the account on a book does not make it binding, doctrinal or even more "valid" than someone who interprets the passages in Genesis in their own way.

Now with regards to your comment about the book sitting in the shelves of most people, it is an absolute assumption on your part (which you seem to do quite often here). Dangerous practice, because unless you know what you are talking about, it makes your statement sound foolish.



Post Date: 23rd Oct, 2007 - 11:53pm / Post ID: #

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Here is some insight to whether Cain is still alive from the scriptures It's found in Genesis 4:13-15,

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And Cain said unto the LORD, My punishment is greater than I can bear.  Behold, thou hast driven me out this day from the face of the earth; and from thy face shall I be hid; and I shall be a fugitive and a vagabond in the earth; and it shall come to pass, that every one that findeth me shall slay me.
And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.


If Cain fears death than he wasn't made immortal. As the Lord States the mark is so no one will kill him. The Mark has modern Prophets have said is the Dark Skin that his descendants now carry.

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Post Date: 24th Oct, 2007 - 10:34am / Post ID: #

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To be honest does anyone here know the meaning of the word "cursed". I'm not sure my self of the whole ins and outs of the word. Could mean to be angry with and cut off? Looking at the curse itself wasnt Cain later was married had children and a civilization was formed so he had a family? Is this right, again it couldnt of been that bad and miserable if he had a family and all that! I do believe if the Lord set a curse on someone it is sufficent. I'm personaly confused about what the curse attualy is because if it was for misery and being a fugitive and hunted all his days then how did he have time to settle and have a wife and family woudnt he be restricted from that? And who the heck would want to be with a so called bigfoot look alike? Is there any women you know of that would want to be with that? Its just very strange to me. This would make more sense. He was cursed for murder would live all his days in misery and depression of being hunted and then died in the flood? Or he was cursed to be alone for thousands of years roaming to and fro in misery and hunted all them years never to be excepted by any civilisation in the world. Maybe someone can help me understand the attual curse itself?




24th Oct, 2007 - 7:32pm / Post ID: #

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QUOTE (truthprevail @ 24-Oct 07, 2:34 AM)
Maybe someone can help me understand the actual curse itself?

Something keeps nagging me about the mark was the SIGN of the curse, not the curse itself--but I cannot find the source to back that--does anyone else know where it is?

I did find something that I thought was interesting, I really like to learn about types and symbols in the scriptures. I got a book for my birthday that I absolutely love: The Lost Language of Symbolism, by Alonzo Gaskill, it states:
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  In chapter 11, Types and Symbols of Christ, pg.273 --comparing Cain and Satan,

Cain convinced many of his brothers and sisters to follow him (Moses 5:27-28,41)
A third part of the hosts of heaven followed Lucifer (Revelation 12:3-4)

Cain became a fugitive and vagabond of the earth  (Moses 5:37)
The devil wanders the earth as a fugitive and a vagabond.


This was something I didn't catch before:

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Cain was not to be killed by men only by God (Moses 5:40)
No man can destroy Satan.  Only God has this power over him."


Just some food for thought!

Another interesting reference I found, (in my opinion)-it is from the book "A Commentary on the Pearl of Great Price," by Jerald R. Johansen:
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  Referring to the story told about David W. Patterns' encounter with "Cain" he writes:  This is indeed, a strange story.  It is possible that Cain is "alive" today only in that the secrets of murder and destruction are still with us today. (see Ether 8:20.)  In other words, Cain "lives" today because there are still followers of Satan who are blood thirsty and as evil as Cain.  There is no scriptural indication that Cain survived the flood at the time of Noah.  Chapter 8, pg. 86)


The reason I thought this was interesting is I have thought before that if Cain died in the flood, it would not of been man that killed him, but God. Although, this is only an opinion, that I seem to share with this author.
The other thing was his look on how Cain could still be alive in the way of other men carrying on his acts and such.

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