Name: Rob
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"Do you have any sources to back this Doctrine up"? |
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It seems the best defense from believing something uncomfortable is to discredit Abraham O. Smoot. Can I just say that it is sad to criticize someone who is long dead, when they were never criticized in similar fashion in life? After reading the post smearing Brother Smoot, I did some research on the internet and found only complimentary information about him. |
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It is Patton's diary that is always seen as kind of suspect. |
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There is also similar stories that are very similar like all urban myths. |
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In the Hebrew the "mark" talked about in Genesis literally means a brand, or a tattoo. It is nothing to do with a physical change of of skin color or appearance. It is a racist notion.... |
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Fascination, men, to curse, sign, portent, token, (this would be the word defined above), plowshare, self, at; by; with; toward; the particle of directed emphasis: THIS!, salvation of Yah, restraint or control. |
So, did you all hear about the missionaries in Canada who found Bigfoot tracks outside of their apartment?
The Houston Today article is here:
Houston Today.com
Excuse me if I express information already given in the topic board. There was a large amount of replies to the board and I did not take the time to read each one. That being said I think we must note a few things.
1. In Kimble's mention of the story, he said Patten encountered someone that claimed to be Cain. Kimble's comment expresses doubt that it was indeed Cain, though he does allow the story to be plausible.
2. If it wasn't really Cain, who was it. One possible answer is that it is Cain's spirit, which actually wouldn't be thousands of miles from his dead body (one should remember where Adam's family lived following there expulsion from the Garden).
3. Another possible answer was it really was just another hairy person that was possessed. If anyone recalls, an experience of Joseph Smith Jr. is recorded in "Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith" p.104. In this instance, a person claiming to be Matthias, or rather, the spirit of Matthias to be in him. This man, whose name was Joshua, believed this is how the resurrection worked. Joseph Smith rebuked him and said that the doctrine of Transmigration is of the Devil. I express that perhaps a similar individual may be our source of 'Cain' as encountered by Patten.
4. While this is an account of an apostle of the church, and one who is quite revered as a martyr, it does not mean he was infallible to doctrinal accounts. He is the only account of Cain still being alive and there is no place in the standard works that ever says that Cain continues to roam the Earth. Only John and the three Nephites are known to still be on Earth, aside from these 4 individuals, it is only speculation.
As far as the the account in Genesis goes, and all other references, we only were told that Cain is to spend his life wondering. I am not aware to any reference that says he'd walk around for all eternity. Cain was afraid someone would kill him, so God gave him a mark to warn anyone that kills him that they would be cursed. We do not know if how he dies (natural causes, murder, etc.), but there is no mention of immortality.