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Post Date: 13th Jul, 2010 - 2:18am / Post ID: #

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Name: Jake
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Comments: Cain could be Sasquatch, the Yeti, Yowi etc... And can't die because Satan wont let him. The Mormon story is,

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Dear Brother: In relation to the subject of the visit of Cain to Brother David W. Patten in the State of Tennessee, about which you wrote to me, I will say that according to the best of my recollection it was in the month of September, 1835.

It was in the evening, just twilight, when Brother Patten rode up to my father's house, alighted from his mule and came into the house. The family immediately observed that his countenance was quite changed. My mother having first noticed his changed appearance said: "Brother Patten, are you sick?" He replied that he was not, but had just met with a very remarkable personage who had represented himself as being Cain, who murdered his brother, Abel. He went on to tell the circumstances as near as I can recall in the following language:

"As I was riding along the road on my mule I suddenly noticed a very strange personage walking beside me. He walked along-beside me for about two miles. His head was about even with my shoulders as I sat in my saddle. He wore no clothing, but was covered with hair. His skin was very dark. I asked him where he dwelt and he replied that he had no home, that he was a wanderer in the earth and traveled to and fro. He said he was a very miserable creature, that he had earnestly sought death during his sojourn upon the earth, but that he could not die, and his mission was to destroy the souls of men. About the time he expressed himself thus, I rebuked him in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by virtue of the Holy Priesthood, and commanded him to go hence, and he immediately departed out of my sight. When he left me I found myself near your house."

There was much conversation about the circumstances between Brother Patten and my family which I don't recall, but the above is in substance his statement to us at the time. The date is, to the best of my recollection, and I think it is correct, but it may possibly have been in the spring of 1836, but I feel quite positive that the former date is right.

Hoping the above will be satisfactory to you and answer your purpose, I am with the kindest regards, as ever,

Your friend and Brother,

A. O. Smoot."


Cain seeks to destroy men's souls for Satan, he travels everywhere and is a legend all over the world.

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Post Date: 13th Sep, 2010 - 12:20am / Post ID: #

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Joe Public, I appreciate the letter from A.O. Smoot, but is this another of your hilarious "skunk ape" tales, or is it an actual document? It sounds real. I think it is not a "boy who cried Bigfoot" situation. Thanks!

Post Date: 13th Sep, 2010 - 12:32am / Post ID: #

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There is another reason why I think Cain is still on this earth. There are many scriptural reference of the translation of such beings such as John the Revelator, the 3 Nephites and possibly Alma the Younger. These persons whom I have mentioned have one mission on this earth : To bring many souls unto the Lord.


Their mission brings my conclusion to why Cain is on this earth this day. Lehi even said it: :

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"There must needs be an opposition in all things..."
Cain is on Earth in opposition to those I have mentioned and his mission is :
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"To seek and destroy the souls of men"


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Post Date: 18th Sep, 2010 - 11:42pm / Post ID: #

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Name: Brother Mike
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Comments: The whole Cain is Bigfoot thing is just a myth, an urban legend if you want to call it that. There is nothing factual about that theory because there is no doctrine about it. Cain, if he is still around is probably in spirit form spending his days in spirit prison awaiting the time when he too will become whole again.

Post Date: 19th Sep, 2010 - 12:08pm / Post ID: #

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Comments: [In my opinion] Cain is dead. If Lamech did not kill him, the flood did.

His descendants are dead. The flood killed them all.

In the instance referred to by Pres Kimball of Bro Patten we have only heard the "claim" of the hairy man to be Cain. No evidence ever proved it was Cain.

Only righteous people are recorded as having been "Translated". Cain cannot possibly be Bigfoot under known scriptural terms.

Satan is more than enough "opposition" without the need of Cain's assistance. Cain only has power of Satan because he will come forth in the resurrection with a body, which Satan will never have.

Post Date: 11th Feb, 2011 - 11:45am / Post ID: #

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Name: JUANCARLOS
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Comments: I have had a fascination with "Bigfoot" for 35 years. I have spent many hours/years conducting personal research on the matter. I have come to a few conclusions as a Christian apologist.

The first question that comes to mind is whether I believe Bigfoot is a product of evolution? No, I categorically think macro-evolution is way out in left-field and is nothing more than science fiction.

The next question is whether the Almighty would have created such a beast? I believe all that our Creator made was good, but Bigfoot seems to fall from that category, so I do not think he was made with the other animals in the creation account. He seems to be more than animal, less than man, but maintains super-human qualities.

Now, I must ask myself if Bigfoot is a product of the Nephilim's genetic tampering, such as was seen prior to the flood of Noah. Again, I do not believe this because all those freakish creatures were killed by the flood which was meant to purge the Earth of such freakish beasts along with the wicked mortals.

Next, one should examine whether or not Noah would have allowed such a beast upon the ark. Again, I do not. I do not believe Bigfoot was a product of evolution...I do not believe he was made by the Almighty "In the beginning", and even though there were many genetic freak-shows roaming the earth prior to the Flood of Noah, I don't think Bigfoot was one of them and even if he was, I certainly do not think he could tread water for a year.

The Holy Bible states that the Nephilim ("Fallen Ones") were present on Earth before the Flood of Noah and afterwards. So, could they have meddled with DNA once again after the flood? I don't think so. It seems that The Almighty put the kabosh to their genetic tampering, probably by sending most of them into the abyss and by giving them the order to cease and desist all genetic tamperings.

So, what is left? Interesting question, but I believe I have found the answer after all these years.

Bigfoot is nothing more than an original inhabitant of Babylon some 5,000 years ago. More precisely, he was present at the construction of the Tower of Babel. There is evidence from Scripture that a curse was put out among those building the Tower, but you will not find the answer from the Holy Bible sitting on your lamp-stand. The answer comes from the ancient Hebrew book of Jasher, which is mentioned as a reference point in both the book of Job and Joshua in the Old Testament.

There were 3 factions of people building the Tower of Babel.

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Jasher 9:26 "...the first said, We will ascend into heaven and fight against him (The Almighty); the second said, we will ascend to heaven and place our own gods there and serve them; and the third part said, we will ascend to heaven and smite him with bows and spears; and God knew all their works and all their evil thoughts."

Jasher 9:35 "And the Lord smote the three divisions that were there, and he punished them according to their works and designs; those who said, We will ascend to heaven and serve our gods, BECAME LIKE APES and elephants...."


Now, I believe the people who wanted to supplant The Almighty with gods, made by their own hands, many of which were in the likeness of wild animals, were thus cursed to look and act like that which they worshiped. So, did they become apes? No, they became "like" an ape, but they were also human. Now, add in the curse from The Almighty and you get the superhuman qualities that come with being a cursed creature and this would explain why all manner of wildlife fear these damned creatures, even 1,500 pound West-coast Grizzlies run away at the slightest smell of a "Bigfoot".

So, what do you have lurking in the forests and mountains of North America? You have a creature whose ancestors were humans, perhaps 5,000 years ago, and these humans received a curse from The Almighty that made them like an ape...not an ape, but "like" an ape. They, therefore, have both qualities of man (certain facial features, intelligence, reason), but they also have the form of an ape and carry the curse, which would explain the para-normal aspect often associated with these creatures.

Once these people were cursed and transformed, they sought comfort from others of their own kind and essentially were driven out of the Middle East and everywhere else, until they migrated across the Bearing Straight land bridge into Alaska and then proceeded to disperse across North America, most likely reaching North America ahead of the "Native Americans".

I believe the first generation of these cursed man-apes were more human, but their offspring became more like the wild beasts that they are now, probably lacking the soul that the first generation of the "damned" still held onto by a thread.

So, is Bigfoot "Cain". No. Cain was accidentally killed by Lamech and Tubal Cain. Lamech was legally blind and his son, Tubal Cain, told him to lift his bow and shoot his arrow at a figure that, from a distance, looked like an animal crossing the field. It turned out to be Lamech's grandfather, Cain. Upon killing Cain, Lamech was overcome with grief and thusly killed his son, Tubal Cain, for his grievous error in judgment.

Besides Cain being killed with an arrow, he would have never been allowed on the ark of Noah, had he lived that long and there is no Biblical evidence that part of Cain's punishment was to live forever wandering across the globe.

Cain probably would have had a longer life if he was not struck down by Lamech, but I doubt he would have lived long enough to see the flood. Even so, he was not authorized to go on it because only Noah, his wife, and their 3 sons and their wives were invited aboard the mighty ship by The Almighty.

Source 1: 35 years of research

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12th Feb, 2011 - 6:18pm / Post ID: #

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Juan Carlos:

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Bigfoot is nothing more than an original inhabitant of Babylon some 5,000 years ago. More precisely, he was present at the construction of the Tower of Babel


Interesting theory Juan Carlos however, who do you refer to as being present at the construction of the tower of Babel? Cain? If so, where do you get this idea from?



Post Date: 15th Apr, 2014 - 3:11am / Post ID: #

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Name: Searcher
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Comments: Are you suggesting Cain is Bigfoot? I searched quite a bit about it and never could fully understand why Pres. Kimball added that encounter story in the miracle of forgiveness.

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