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Interesting choice. Keep in mind that when - Page 3 - Mormon Doctrine Studies - Posted: 6th Oct, 2007 - 6:16pm
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To replace Pres. Faust
Post Date: 18th Aug, 2007 - 5:16pm / Post ID: #
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I got it from a Deseret News article at the time.
https://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,595081177,00.html
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Thanks. I do not think can be "Any worthy male holding the Melchidezek Priesthood", meaning not an Elder only but needs to be a High Priest. (I am speaking about the calling of Counselor in the First Presidency). I found this in Wiki:
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| Any high priest of the church is eligible to be called as a counselor in the First Presidency. |
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| There are a number of positions in the LDS Church which may only be filled by a high priest. Among these are bishop, stake president and counselor to a stake president, member of a stake high council, and mission president. A bishop's two counselors are also high priests, except in the case where the counselors are unmarried adult members in a single adults ward. A branch president and his counselors need not be high priests, but they must be holders of the Melchizedek priesthood. Any high priest in the church is eligible to be called as an apostle or as a member of the First Presidency of the church. |
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Priest_%...r_Day_Saints%29
I also found that there were cases of a Third Counselor, David O. Mc Kay had 4 counselors and Brigham Young 8.
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| There have also been a few cases where counselors have been ordained to the priesthood office of apostle and became members of the Quorum of the Twelve after already being set apart as counselors in the First Presidency (e.g., J. Reuben Clark). There have been other cases where counselors have been ordained to the office of apostle but not set apart as a member of the Quorum of the Twelve (e.g., Alvin R. Dyer). Other counselors in the First Presidency were never ordained to the office of apostle (e.g., Charles W. Nibley; John R. Winder). Whether or not a counselor is an apostle, all members of the First Presidency are sustained by the church as prophets, seers, and revelators. Counselors are formally designated as "First Counselor in the First Presidency" and "Second Counselor in the First Presidency" based on the order they were selected by the president. Additional counselors have been designated in different ways, including "Third Counselor in the First Presidency" (e.g., Hugh B. Brown), "Assistant Counselor to the President" (e.g., John Willard Young), and simply "Counselor in the First Presidency" (e.g., Thorpe B. Isaacson). |
I am not 100% of the accuracy of the articles (we are speaking about wiki!) but seeing the historical references seems to be correct.
Post Date: 25th Aug, 2007 - 11:27am / Post ID: #
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Some of the doctrine of what we've been discussing here is laid out in D&C 107. There's others that talk about the First Presidency, but here are just a few:
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| 22 Of the Melchizedek Priesthood, three Presiding High Priests, chosen by the body, appointed and ordained to that office, and cupheld by the confidence, faith, and prayer of the church, form a quorum of the Presidency of the Church. |
Shows that 3 of these guys make the First Presidency. High Priests. Doesn't mention that there can't be more to make this body.
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| 71 Nevertheless, a high priest, ... 72 And also to be a judge in Israel, ... , by the assistance of his counselors, whom he has chosen or will choose among the elders of the church. |
Could this mean that a high priest could have counselors that are just elders? If so, could the "Presiding High Priest" (Church President) have counselors that are just elders? I don't think so, where as vs. 22 mentions three "Presiding High Priest". But maybe this supports what user sorrot posted about choosing elders than ordaining them high priests.
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| 79 And the Presidency of the council of the High Priesthood shall have power to call other high priests, even twelve, to assist as counselors; and thus the Presidency of the High Priesthood and its counselors shall have power to decide upon testimony according to the laws of the church. |
OK, so we see that they can call other counselors to assist. The context of this and the surrounding verses seems to be about resolving complicated matters such as church discipline. Would this be why David O. McKay and Brigham Young had more than two counselors?
Doctrine and Covenants on LDS.org
Edited: nateHarward on 25th Aug, 2007 - 11:39amApostle The
Dont they sometimes call an apostle before conference or do they wait until conference always?
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Wow, I am quite surprised for the choice but I welcome it of course. He is definitely one of the Apostles I would never guessed was going to be chosen as Second Counselor. He holds a degree in physics and all the three members of the First Presidency are graduated from the University of Utah.
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| SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- Gordon B. Hinckley, president of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, named a new top church official at the 177th gathering of faithful Mormons Saturday. Elder Henry B. Eyring was appointed as the second counselor in the organization's First Presidency. Eyring replaces James E. Faust, who died Aug. 10 from age-related causes and was remembered at the gathering Saturday. "He was an extremely able man, a man of great faith and capacity who contributed much to our meetings," said Hinckley, who counted Faust among his closest and oldest friends. "We greatly miss him." Eyring previously served 12 years in the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, the church's second-tier of leadership. A native of Princeton, N.J., he was president of the church-owned Rick's College in Rexburg, Idaho, from 1972 to 1977 and taught in the Graduate School of Business at Stanford University from 1962 to 1971. |
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| The new apostle, Elder Quentin L. Cook, has been overseeing the church's worldwide missionary program, responsible directly to the Quorum of the Twelve, according to the release. While in that position, he was a member of the First Quorum of the Seventy. Elder Cook also has provided leadership for the church in the Philippines, throughout the Pacific and in the northwestern United States. |
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