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Post Date: 22nd Aug, 2007 - 1:18pm / Post ID: #

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Your last post was deleted for not being constructive, based on one or more of the following:

1. Stay on the topic, see our Constructive Posting Policy
2. Ensure that you use good English, no slang, proper spelling, uppercase letters where necessary, etc.
3. Do not post just off topic messages or lengthy quotes, only Bots may do this, Members must add input.
4. Make sure that you are not just trying to increase your post count by either duplicating or posting vague information, but also add worthwhile replies that are related to the Topic.

Post Date: 22nd Aug, 2007 - 1:21pm / Post ID: #

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Which post was deleted? How am I supposed to know what I have done "wrong" if you don't tell me what it is?

Every post I created today (just a few) has been directly on topic, well written (being humble here), and followed your policies to a T.

***Edit***

Okay, I figured it out. Persephone deleted a post in the "Post War Iraq" thread that discusses new developments in Post-War Iraq, namely:

* France shifting positions and siding with America and its allies
* Democrats recognizing that the U.S. surge in Iraq is working

And I cited to articles on the Internet (which people could read and backup my points) while also summarizing those articles for people who just want to scan it.

So how on earth is that not "on-topic" for a Post War Iraq thread?

Reconcile Edited: tortdog on 22nd Aug, 2007 - 1:31pm

Post Date: 22nd Aug, 2007 - 1:32pm / Post ID: #

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Honey, did you settle down and pay attention to what is written in the Constructive Posting Policy and the FAQ Board or are you just 'playing it by ear'? I mean, its like, Persephone loves you or something.

Post Date: 22nd Aug, 2007 - 1:42pm / Post ID: #


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Those News clips and links you placed, are they actual quotes or your own words?

If quoted news then you need to look at #3 in Persephone's Post.

If your own words then Persephone did that in error possibly because it looked like you were imitating the News Bot.

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Post Date: 22nd Aug, 2007 - 1:45pm / Post ID: #

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Well, "Attitude", please help me out. This is about the third or fourth time I've answered the question on whether I read the "constructive" policy. So, yeah, I have. Let's go through it with this last post that was deleted.

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The post was directly on point. It was on a Post-War Iraq thread, and dealt with France changing its position and opting to help America and its allies in Iraq and bring a final resolution so America could eventually leave. It also included info on Democrats in America admitting the surge of U.S. troops in Iraq is having success, and that things are starting to work.

Directly on point.

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N/A. Both points were directly on topic.

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Since the post is deleted, I really can't recreated it exactly. But all sentences were "legible enough to read." The spelling was perfect. The grammar was golden.

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N/A. (Even though I love sarcasm and I have to fight to not include it in my posts. One reason is, yeah, I use sarcasm in my legal writing (including briefs). So my style is at odds here, so I try to modify it appropriately. But in THIS instance, there was ZERO sarcasm.)

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N/A. Not one smiley. I never liked them.

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Yep. Post-war Iraq and America getting out.

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I posted two cites to online news articles.

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The only possible fault is that talking about French ambitions to bring peace to Iraq and help America get out, and that the surge in post-war Iraq is working, is somehow off topic to the question of post-war Iraq and America getting out.

Explain that?

Responding to JB (saw his post after I posted this reply...and THANKS!)

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Those News clips and links you placed, are they actual quotes or your own words?


They are my own words, as I explained in a post prior to your question on this point. When I cite to a source, I generally writes a synopsis to make it easy for the reader (so they don't have to go read the article if they don't want, while still getting the gist of the source).

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If quoted news then you need to look at #3 in Persephone's Post.


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If your own words then Persephone did that in error possibly because it looked like you were imitating the News Bot


She goofed. Kind of ticks me off, because I put some thought into that post, found those cites, and posted it here. Not right that I have to recreate all that work just because Persephone goofs up.

Really bothersome.

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Persephone has a special liking for you Tortdog, just admit it. laugh.gif Actually, your Post is ON TOPIC, I think it was another reason as I mentioned above, but you did not answer me?

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Tortdog, you was on topic. Persephone seems to have erased it because you did not add quote tags as required when you quote news or statements. It looked too much like the News bot. I would have edit it but Persephone is strict on her moderation. But you know what they say about girls that fight you...laugh.gif Don't sweat the small stuff.

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