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7th May, 2010 - 12:18pm / Post ID: #

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international QUOTE (JoePublic @ 19-Apr 10, 12:56 AM)
I also don't believe Spencer W. Kimball would have published the story about Cain if he didn't feel it was true.


Pres. Kimball just shared the story, whether he thought it was true, whether he found it interesting or not is pure speculation you know what am I saying? Just like it is an speculation to say he is dead.



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Post Date: 7th May, 2010 - 4:54pm / Post ID: #

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I don't see how it is speculation to say he is dead when the scriptures say "ALL LIVING INHABITANTS" died except those on the ark...of which Cain was not one. If anything it is pure speculation/myth/legend to say that cain still walks the earth.

7th May, 2010 - 7:07pm / Post ID: #

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It is speculation because the Lord gave him a punishment and it was quite clear unless you think the Lord "changed" his mind about it.



Post Date: 8th May, 2010 - 1:01am / Post ID: #

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Comments: I think he is Bigfoot. Don't know why, don't have any proof, . . . I just think and believe very strong he is.

I think that what the scriptures refer to as "all living things" in the ark, is true doctrine. But, I believe that it is "milk" doctrine. I firmly believe that there must be some exception that applies to Cain/bigfoot in some sort of "deep doctrine".

I believe the scriptures are true doctrine, but I believe there is much more interesting and deep things to learn beyond The Bible, [Book of Mormon], D&C. Have no idea where to find this, or how to explain it. I just feel that way.

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Post Date: 8th May, 2010 - 5:36am / Post ID: #

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Moses 7:43

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"but upon the residue of the wicked the floods came and swallowed them up."


I would say Cain was defiantly one of the wicked on the Earth!

In the guide to the scriptures is says (scriptures.lds. Org /gs/f/21)
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"During Noah's time the earth was completely covered with water. This was the baptism of the earth and symbolized a cleansing (1 Pet. 3: 20-21).
God will bring a flood of waters upon the earth to destroy all flesh, Gen. 6: 17 (Moses 7: 34, 43, 50-52; 8: 17, 30). The waters of the flood were upon the earth, Gen. 7: 10. God set a bow in the cloud as a token of the covenant, Gen. 9: 9-17. After the waters had receded, the land of America became a choice land, Ether 13: 2. The wicked shall perish in the flood, Moses 7: 38; 8: 24."

If the flood was symbolic of a cleansing then God would not have left any part or person on the Earth unclean!

Cain is dead!

What was the curse put upon Cain? Was it to walk the earth? Where does it say that?

His curse according to the scriptures is that he would have a make of sham put upon him. See Gen 4, and Moses 5


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8th May, 2010 - 4:22pm / Post ID: #

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international QUOTE (Woody @ 8-May 10, 5:36 AM)
His curse according to the scriptures is that he would have a make of sham put upon him. See Gen 4, and Moses 5



Where does it say that? Please point out exact verse, thanks.



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Post Date: 13th May, 2010 - 11:27pm / Post ID: #

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In my opinion the fate of Cain is not clear, I think the evidence that all life died at the flood seems to suggest that only those on the ark survived the flood.

I think that it is possible that the curse is only limited to man.

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And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him (Gen 4:14)


This seems to suggest that the mark was to prevent anyone else from killing him because he was cursed, not that he couldn't die or was to live forever. As Cain says to God 'everyone that findeth me shall slay me.' The curse was that no one wanted him near him, he was excommunicated, it doesn't say he was immune to death.

As to the quote from the Miracle of Forgiveness, I would just like to point out how unreliable it is, it is a quote from someone from a book, that contains a letter from someone who heard someone say something about seeing Cain. It is hardly the most reliable source. However, we know that their is opposition in all things (2 Nephi 2:11) and we know that other beings such as Moses, the Three Nephites and John the Beloved have been allowed to not taste death, it would seem if there is opposition in all things then it would make sense for an evil version of them, ie. Cain, to be on the earth.

Post Date: 19th May, 2010 - 5:23am / Post ID: #

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No where in the scriptures does it was that he was to live forever. I agree with Jacobimus. TO say Cain is alive is PURE speculation and cant be backed with any scripture, where as saying he is dead, can be backed by numerous scriptures.

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