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Thanks for the good wishes, I plan to make - Page 2 - Mormon Doctrine Studies - Posted: 24th Nov, 2007 - 12:03am
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Mothers Who Know - The so called 'controversial' talk by Sis. Julie Bangerter Beck, General Relief Society President - Updated to follow up on other talks
Julie B. Beck - General Relief Society President - Page 2
I loved Sister Beck's talk. I felt as though she was talking to me I was going through the motion of going back to work full-time so we would have extra money.
Now, I know I did the right thing by just working part-time out of necessity.
We are in a society that constantly think we need stuff, a bigger house ,a new car etc., Meanwhile the kids are left home in the evenings by themselves or spend long hours in day care. I believe Sister Beck was referring mostly to married couples who choose to work than stay home.
As for a clean home etc., I believe you can have order in the home its not easy it takes a little bit of work but it can be done.
Anna
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If you are a mother in Zion and doing what the Lord wants you to do then a talk in General Conference should only encourage you to continue as you are doing rather than to become upset over words chosen in a talk. You can try andcomplicate things, but it's as simple as that.
Julie B. Beck - General Relief Society President Studies Doctrine Mormon
The controversy continues! I wonder how Sis. Becks feels about it? I am sure she would make a comment or two over this when she speaks next or do you think she would just ignore it?
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| Hundreds of women sign online rebuttal of Mormon conference motherhood comments A group of women have published an online rebuttal to Julie B. Beck's speech delivered at last month's LDS General Conference that invites readers to sign their names. By late Monday, the rebuttal, titled "What Women Know," carried more than 250 signatures, and was the subject of furious debate on more than 20 Internet sites about the merit of taking on Beck, whose speech described ideal mothers as not delaying childbearing, being responsible for children and recognizing the importance of a tidy house. There are now rebuttals to the rebuttal. "I have not seen this sort of sustained opposition and number of comments and controversy about a [General] Conference talk since I've been blogging in the last four years," said Julie M. Smith, an Austin, Texas, stay-at-home mom and writer with a degree in biblical studies. "I thought we were finally moving on, but with this new response we are back to square one." The LDS Church declined to comment on the rebuttal, spokesman Scott Trotter said. Beck could not be reached for comment. Some declarations of the rebuttal: * Fathers as well as mothers, men as well as women, are called to nurture. * Motherhood and sisterhood cannot be reduced to the performance of narrowly prescribed tasks, but emerge from who we know ourselves to be. * Cleanliness depends on access to resources and has more to do with priorities than purity of heart. * Unfortunately, women and girls still perform the bulk of the world's low-paid and unpaid labor, including housework - often at the expense of their own education, leadership, creativity, health, and well-being. We reject teachings that encourage women to shoulder ultimate responsibility for every aspect of child-rearing and family life, and to take on shame and guilt when things do not go according to plan. * We reverence the responsibility to choose how, when, and whether we become parents. Smith took issue with part of that final sentence in a post on timesandseasons.org, entitled, "Children Are Not Optional." |
https://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_7512832
I have many issues with this rebuttal but the last one is ridiculous, "whether we become parents"?
Bringing children into this world IS a main part of the Plan of Salvation!Why are these women so upset? For the following statements (from the same link):
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| In her speech at LDS General Conference last month, Relief Society President Julie Beck: * Urged Mormon women not to limit or delay child-bearing. * Said Mormon mothers could honor their sacred covenants as some African women did by bringing their daughters to church "in clean and ironed dresses with hair brushed to perfection; their sons wear white shirts and ties and have missionary haircuts." * Linked the idea of nurturing with housekeeping and that included "cooking, washing clothes and dishes, and keeping an orderly house.'' * Suggested that LDS women cut back on activities outside the home "to conserve their limited strength in order to maximize their influence where it matters most." |
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Honestly, women have been so influenced by Western Society that they forget the gospel principles and plan of salvation that define our roles, male and female. Why get so offended when these things are directly pointed out to us as reminders? Nothing has changed about women's roles in the home or the church since the beginning.
There isn't anything in that talk that was out of line or *unknown* to every LDS woman.
LDS_Forever, I wish you great good luck with that one in Relief Society!
Julie B. Beck - General Relief Society President
I agree with Farseer that there is not anything that has changed in our roles. It struck me from the article (rebuttal link) the words:
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| Surely, surely there are people of goodwill on both sides of this divide who can start a loving dialogue. Isn't this the Church of Jesus Christ?" |
In another thread it speaks of the divide in the church in the latter days and so that statement kind of jumped out at me.
I also wish you the best LDS as it is hard enough to teach but to teach something that can be controversial--Yikes! From your posts I know that you rely on the spirit and that guidance will not fail you.
I was also thinking that often times people are offended it is because they, themselves feel like they do not measure up or have guilt from whatever sin it may be. Although, I am sure there are many great women one "both sides" I wonder if some are offended because it "limits" them in their mind to those other women in the world. Just my thoughts.
Julie B. Beck General Relief Society President - Page 2
Yes , good luck LDS. I know being in the Relief Society Presidency we constantly get sisters who complain about talks I know this one definately going to be one. We are also going to hear this talk on Sunday.
Anna
Julie B. Beck General Relief Society President Mormon Doctrine Studies - Page 2
Thanks for the good wishes, I plan to make this lesson very interactive. I just came across this quote by President Benson and wonder how those who are trashing Sis. Becks talk all over the net, feel about it:
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| "Time has a way of taking care of all things, of elevating the good and bringing down the bad. If we see things going on within the kingdom that disturb us, we should first find out if the matter falls within our stewardship. We then might go to the person or people involved. If it is of such a nature that we think it should be called to the attention of higher authority, then we can, in a kindly and quiet manner, take the necessary steps at the proper level. "[But] to publish differences we may think we have with the leaders of the Church, to create strife and division, is a sure road to apostasy. Our task is to stick with the kingdom." (Ensign, July 1975, p.62.) |
Notice that he doesn't say we should stay quiet when something bother us with a particular leader, in this case why go around all over the internet stating things like Sis. Becks want women in the Church to be "baby factories" and things like that? Why not contact her through letter and solve the issue? Unfortunately, I see this issue mostly with our US Sisters who are so caught into materialism and the ideals of the world with regards to the role of women that they are being blind and quick to take offense.
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