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3 RESCUERS KILLED TRYING TO REACH TRAPPED UTAH MINERS

The underground rescue effort to reach six trapped Utah miners should be suspended in the wake of a deadly cave-in that killed three rescue workers, the governor of Utah said Friday.
Ref. https://www.cbc.ca/story/world/national/200...escue-mine.html

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The Psychology of such tragic events is covered in They Are Alive... No They Are Not Thread within the Psychology Board.

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I think the choice of waiting till the rescue attempt can be redesigned so as to ensure the safety of the rescuers is prudent. After the focus here is to try and save lives not jeopardize more. Working in the electrical field we are taught that is the very first step in fist aid so why would it be different for a rescue operation.

Time is essential I realize but we also have to accept not every person can be saved. If the ground is too unstable then why should anyone be asked to enter till the ground can be unreinforced and stabilized to make passage safe.

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I do not think they were expecting that type of seismic reaction. We have to remember that a lot of the people helping in the rescue missions are pals of the trapped miners and they may know the families of the victims very well. My heart aches as I see the developments of this story. My prayers go to the families of all the victims involved.

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You are very correct LDS_forever most mines towns are very small and all know each other and there was a great amount of emotion driving the workers. It is that emotion that also endangers them the most as personal safety is push aside when trying to save one you care for. I know that these emotions are hard for leaders to control but that is a leaders job. As a lead hand I would never allow anyone to endanger themselves even to save another. I would not want to have to tell two families that I personally allowed them both to die.

My industry the average man used to last 7 years before they would either quit or be killed now most make it to retirement after 35 years. Being prudent is the major reason, never put yourself or anyone else at risk. I am sure once every thing settles down it will be found some where a mistake was made causing the first cave in. I see 3 died needlessly now the mining company gets to explain it all to possible 15 families not just 12. The 12 was to many to start in my opinion and I feel very bad for the families and friends left behind. I just hope new procedures and policies will be placed to prevent a second occurrence. Perhaps I should open a thread on why the need for unions arose. I know a man who lived in a mining town as a small child and he had some very sad stories, he shared them often to remind those around them of our past in the hopes we would ensure it never reoccurred.

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There is a lot of hurt families over the recent mining incidents. One has to wonder if these mines are really as safe as they say.

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It seems USA works a tad different then Canada, from the article I would say the cost was very low. Does any one know how these claims effect their insurance premiums?

In Canada depending on the company they would be entitled to the amount paid into the pension plan and most likely some sort of life insurance. There would be a formal investigation and charges laid with both personal and company fines for the lead hand though to the board members. The numbers for Ontario is that for every dollar the accident costs the real cost is 100 times that. The long term cost is the Workers insurance board rates greatly increase. Being in the Electrical Utility field were were the first to get on board with safer work procedures and rules. The result is staggering the average life span of a Utility worker went from 8 years to full retirement after 35 years service. Other industries are now starting to follow suit, the mining industry I know has its own occupational rules in Ontario.