Nuestro Padre Celistial Fue Un Cristo?

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Post Date: 11th Nov, 2007 - 9:11pm / Post ID: #

Nuestro Padre Celistial Fue Un Cristo?
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Nuestro Padre Celistial Fue Un Cristo?

Segun tengo entendido Nuestro Padre Celestial fue un Cristo en su mundo y expio los pecados de los mundos de su Padre celestial, hay alguna referencia aparte la que da Jose Smith en Enseñanzas del Profeta Jose Smith?

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Post Date: 19th Apr, 2008 - 10:43pm / Post ID: #

Nuestro Padre Celistial Fue Un Cristo?
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Cristo Fue Celistial Padre Nuestro

QUOTE (doctrinarium @ 11-Nov 07, 4:11 PM)
Segun tengo entendido Nuestro Padre Celestial fue un Cristo en su mundo y expio los pecados de los mundos de su Padre celestial, hay alguna referencia aparte la que da Jose Smith en Enseñanzas del Profeta Jose Smith?

Encontre en el Blog: The Great and Spacious Building(https://greatandspaciousbuilding.blogspot.com), la siguiente cita en ingles si hay alguien que pueda traducirla bienvenida sea. Aqui se las dejo:

Was God the Father a Savior in Mortality?
In the last year of his life the Prophet Joseph revealed to the world that "God Himself was once as we are now" and that He too "dwelt on an earth" as we do. Yet we know very little about our heavenly Father's mortal life. All the Prophet tells us is that "he was once a man like us;" that "God the Father ... had a father;" and 'that He (his father) had a father also;" that he "layed down His body and took it up again;" that he had to "learn how to be God ... the same as all Gods had done before;" that 'the Father wrought precisely in the same way as His Father had done before" Him; and that he then "worked out his kingdom in fear and trembling;"

Joseph compares Jesus" progression to that of his Father many times. When he tells us that God "dwelt on an earth" he adds this was 'the same as Jesus Christ himself did;" He tells us that "Jesus layed down His life as His Father did, and took it up again." That Jesus would only "do the things He saw His Father do" and that Jesus 'treads in the tracks of His Father, and inherits what God did before."

From these passages it has been presumed by many that the Prophet Joseph was implying that God the Father had once fulfilled a similar mission as that of Jesus. That God had been a Savior, and performed an atonement, suffering and dying for the sins of those on the mortal world on which he lived.

It is easy to see how such a conclusion could be reached. Yet almost every comparison he makes between Jesus and the Father he makes between us and God too: God dwelt on an earth the same as we do, we will take up our lives again when we are resurrected, we must do the things our Father did to become as He is, as Joseph says, "you have got to learn to be Gods yourselves ... the same as all Gods have done before you."

There is a good reason Joseph compares Jesus to His Father in these ways: The world accepts Jesus as a divine being, yet also accepts that He lived a mortal life. Jesus is also the only earthly example of resurrection and exaltation his listeners had, and yet we have the same opportunity for exaltation that Jesus has.

This is why he uses Jesus as an example: If Jesus as a mortal could become a God, then - the Prophet reasoned - so could we. We too can grow from "grace to grace, from exaltation to exaltation, until we attain to the resurrection of the dead, and are able to dwell in everlasting burnings, and to sit in glory, as do those who sit enthroned in everlasting power." After all "God was once as we are now."

Perhaps we need to broaden the definition of what it means to be a savior. The scriptures refer to saviors on mount Zion, and the Prophet Joseph elaborated upon this idea in relation to the vicarious work we do for our kindred dead. Maybe we all must be saviors in this way to merit exaltation.

Perhaps then we may also take all the opinions in favor of God having been a Savior like Jesus as just speculation, which - if true - would show that Prophets are liable - as are we all - to theorizing on matters that don't directly concern our salvation.


Muchas gracias y espero que la misma arroje mas luz sobre este topico

Post Date: 20th Apr, 2008 - 1:02pm / Post ID: #

Nuestro Padre Celistial Fue Un Cristo? Studies Doctrine Mormon

Interesante. Deberiamos definir que significa "Salvador". El Profeta Jose Smith dio su opinion al respecto pero no significa que sea "doctrina oficial". Es mas, en una entrevista el Presidente Hinckley no pudo responder a la pregunta si alguna vez Dios fue un hombre como nosotros.

Post Date: 20th Apr, 2008 - 3:41pm / Post ID: #

Nuestro Padre Celistial Fue Un Cristo?
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Cristo Fue Celistial Padre Nuestro

QUOTE (Bonita @ 20-Apr 08, 8:02 AM)
Interesante. Deberiamos definir que significa "Salvador". El Profeta Jose Smith dio su opinion al respecto pero no significa que sea "doctrina oficial". Es mas, en una entrevista el Presidente Hinckley no pudo responder a la pregunta si alguna vez Dios fue un hombre como nosotros.

Aguien puede traducir el articulo asi nos da mas luz al respecto!

Post Date: 22nd Jul, 2008 - 1:00am / Post ID: #

Cristo Fue Celistial Padre Nuestro

Basicamente dice que Dios pudo haber sido un "Salvador" pero a la vez no explica lo que significa Salvado en este contexto lo que puede significar de acuerdo al articulo con el mismo concepto que se nos dan a nosotros de "Salvadores en Sion".

Post Date: 22nd Jul, 2008 - 1:57am / Post ID: #

Nuestro Padre Celistial Fue Un Cristo?
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Nuestro Padre Celistial Fue Un Cristo?

Bonita, en enseñanzas del profeta jose smith aclara esto, busca en la pagina 428 donde dice "El poder delPadre y el Hijo", si el hijo al igual que padre tiene el poder de poner su vida y vlverla a tomar nos indica que el Padre fue un Cristo en su mundo primogenio

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Post Date: 22nd Jul, 2008 - 2:04am / Post ID: #

Nuestro Padre Celistial Fue Cristo

Quizas pero no estoy totalmente convencida. No es acaso la opinion del Profeta? Creo que hay un tema en este foro que se llama "El profeta lo . dicho...es suficiente?" o algo asi.

Post Date: 22nd Jul, 2008 - 9:13pm / Post ID: #

Nuestro Padre Celistial Fue Un Cristo?
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Bonita entonces cual es la explicacion que propones, he puesto un post en ingles para que alguien lo traduzca, fijate el artìculo

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